Clutch kit Stage 2 ?

[MrBigMac]

after upping my boost a little to high, my clutch has started slipping on boost. ive been looking at either this or this i think for what i read the only difference is one is paddle clutch, does anyone have a experience with either one ?

[Slam Wagon]

Both only rated for 40% increase, which is stage 1 figures.

[shervo]

Many people have used cg clutches though with good success although I have heard equal amounts of bad reviews

[MrBigMac]

have been speaking to a Andrew at CG, he says that there Stage 3 paddle will be fine for stage 2

[craig306]

have been speaking to a Andrew at CG, he says that there Stage 3 paddle will be fine for stage 2

do you use the car daily?? because I hear that paddle clutch are not good for daily use. also they wear quicker too.

Even the CG Motorsport web site says there not for daily use. 

Just some think to think about before you order the clutch.

[MrBigMac]

yeah its my daily, i did question that with him as i read all the information about the clutch. finding a clutch seems to be proving difficult lol

[craig306]

yeah its my daily, i did question that with him as i read all the information about the clutch. finding a clutch seems to be proving difficult lol

dont rush into it, speak to some guys on here they will point you in the right place 

[Slam Wagon]

My helix is still going good after 20k of daily use. It is a heavy clutch due to the uprated pressure plate but im glad ive got it.

[MrBigMac]

i sort of have to rush lol as need car. what Helix do you use ? do you have a link ?

[craig306]

have a read here http://306oc.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=31486

its a diffident engine but worth a read

[Frosty]

Paddles really aren't that bad to drive with daily. As far as I'm aware there isn't really any other option out there other than a paddle clutch if you want it to hold the torque. More than likely it won't last as long as a standard clutch would but with tuning you have to take the good with the bad I guess

Oh and clutches do seem to be hot topic on here and facebook ATM

[craig306]

after upping my boost a little to high, my clutch has started slipping on boost. ive been looking at either this or this i think for what i read the only difference is one is paddle clutch, does anyone have a experience with either one ?

just out of interest  how many miles is on your clutch?? and how many mile have you done with a stage 2 on that clutch.

[MrBigMac]

Standard valeo had done 90k I got 178miles I got a bit carried away setting my IBC up

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I did think about putting a valeo in it but with maybe a stronger pressure plate

[Poodle]

CG don't seem to do a great job with their hdi clutches, a search in this section will reveal a lot of people who have had issues previously. Helix are expensive, but do the job nicely, i actually found mine fine to drive if a little heavy. Certainly wasn't juddery and impossible in traffic as some have found their paddle clutches, probably thanks to the sprung centre. There are a few other options, but not many tried and tested by members on here.

[Jonny81191]

Helix stage 3 cover with the fast road organic friction plate, bites hard but not unpleasant so it's very smooth once you're used to it. Holding very well on a stage 1+, will report back once she's properly boosted.

[shervo]

Would there be any advantage of converting the gearbox to run a pull type clutch like the xud's? And then buy a cg clutch for a 1.9 xud as people seem to have more success with the xud kits over the hdi kits

[Frosty]

Would there be any advantage of converting the gearbox to run a pull type clutch like the xud's? And then buy a cg clutch for a 1.9 xud as people seem to have more success with the xud kits over the hdi kits

Some do say its a better design, with the different designs with standard clutch the xud style tends to hold a bit more torque. I can't think of any that have had too many issues with the hdi style CG clutch though?

[pro_steve]

Get either the Helix clutch or a Black diamond clutch. I've used CG twice before and I won't be using them again.

When buying a clutch it should do what it's advertised to do, you shouldn't be taking a gamble as to whether or not it will work and how long it will last, it's a lot of money and a lot of work to fit one.

[Poodle]

Would there be any advantage of converting the gearbox to run a pull type clutch like the xud's? And then buy a cg clutch for a 1.9 xud as people seem to have more success with the xud kits over the hdi kits

Some do say its a better design, with the different designs with standard clutch the xud style tends to hold a bit more torque. I can't think of any that have had too many issues with the hdi style CG clutch though?

As far as i was aware your own experiences with CG have been fairly appalling, could be thinking of somebody else though... If it was a one off i wouldn't be interested, but when members on here seem to have issues more often than not it becomes difficult to ignore. Or not, apparently lol.

[Frosty]

Well the 1 off cg for my Xud didn't last long but not sure why when mark had his at the same time and run more power/torque though his. Then I had the issue with the 1 I got off someone brand new but hit the gearbox. They weren't overly helpful on that but don't think they really wanted to know as I didn't buy it direct from them.

Got 1 on the estate now and seems all good and has done about 8000 miles. Pleased with it so far so can just go by that I guess

[PartyJas]

Get either the Helix clutch or a Black diamond clutch. I've used CG twice before and I won't be using them again.

When buying a clutch it should do what it's advertised to do, you shouldn't be taking a gamble as to whether or not it will work and how long it will last, it's a lot of money and a lot of work to fit one.

Which Black Diamond clutch would you suggest.? Does it need to be the paddle clutch or is their Kevlar clutch capable enough.?

[MrBigMac]

Stage 3 for they recommend for tuned diesel's which is 5or6 paddle iirc from what I read on there site

[pro_steve]

I would go with their paddle clutch personally, if you're going to upgrade the clutch you may as well go with the toughest.

[PartyJas]

Yeah. Paddle clutch is quite a bit more expensive than the Kevlar though and the Kevlar would drive more like a standard clutch. I wonder if anybody has used the Black Diamond Kevlar clutch on a full fat stage 2.??

[Poodle]

I think there was somebody on here who fitted one a year or so ago and reported back with good results. If memory serves it's barely more expensive than oem valeo so got to be worth a shot.

[MrBigMac]

these are the prices i have found for Black diamond not found any cheaper yet
Peugeot 306 2.0 HDi 90 08/98 > 04/02 Stage 1 £ 178.00
Peugeot 306 2.0 HDi 90 08/98 > 04/02 Stage 2 £ 232.00
Peugeot 306 2.0 HDi 90 08/98 > 04/02 Stage 3 £ 371.00

had email back from helix the cant do clutch for hdi on standard flywheel and only rate paddle clutch to 300lbs.

[PartyJas]

I work for a Black Diamond Distributor. I can look into a group buy if there is enough interest.?

[MrBigMac]

now that i would be interested in on a stage 3 clutch, what sort of price do think you could get ?

[pro_steve]

I ran the black diamond Kevlar clutch on my 210BHP 1.6 206, but the torque wasn't massively high because the turbo took so long to spool. Drove VERY nice and was still nice and light with a complete smooth pull away, I could even say it drove nicer than the stock clutch. These take AGES to bed in though.

Just looked and I was running about 340Nm through it, and this clutch is the same diameter and spline etc as the 2.0 clutch, so personally I would say go for the paddle clutch if you want to guarantee it will hold.

[PartyJas]

now that i would be interested in on a stage 3 clutch, what sort of price do think you could get ?

I will ask the question and get prices on the stage 2 and stage 3 clutches.