Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter?
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Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter?
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03-03-2014, 06:32 PM
Hey guys I have a 306 1.4, I don't like the original air filter system. So is it better to get a induction kit or a cone filter system for a 1.4? I'm not looking at power, just looking to help the cars breathing and a little bit of a better sound.
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03-03-2014, 07:31 PM
They are the same thing... The induction kit is just cone that comes with the relevant hoses to join the cone filter to your system.
I guess you mean an uprated panel filter or a cone filter/induction kit? Personally I'd go with the induction kit on a 1.4, and infact I did, twice lol. Performance panel wont give any noticeable gains. Cone will sound awesome under load. 
03-03-2014, 07:45 PM
(03-03-2014, 07:31 PM)Toms306 Wrote: They are the same thing... The induction kit is just cone that comes with the relevant hoses to join the cone filter to your system. Awesome thanks what kit would you recommend?
03-03-2014, 07:48 PM
Just get a cone filter and stick it on the end of the air box. Take the filter out first of course. Under £15 and works perfectly well!
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03-03-2014, 07:52 PM
i've got an K&N 57i induction kit made especially for the 1.4 or 1.6, had it on my old 1.6 sounds really nice, i'm breaking that car now so yours for £25 posted . . .
Phase 1 D-Turdo, K14@24 psi, De-cat, meaty backbox, Bosch pump, grinded LDA pin, duel air fed K&N =133.7bhp & 188ft/lbs
03-03-2014, 07:54 PM
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(03-03-2014, 07:48 PM)SRowell Wrote: Just get a cone filter and stick it on the end of the air box. Take the filter out first of course. Under £15 and works perfectly well! I'll have to have a look to see what I find I did find this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-306-30...258205ad10(03-03-2014, 07:52 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: i've got an K&N 57i induction kit made especially for the 1.4 or 1.6, had it on my old 1.6 sounds really nice, i'm breaking that car now so yours for £25 posted . . . Do you have a pic?
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03-03-2014, 07:56 PM
Phase 1 D-Turdo, K14@24 psi, De-cat, meaty backbox, Bosch pump, grinded LDA pin, duel air fed K&N =133.7bhp & 188ft/lbs
03-03-2014, 08:00 PM
(03-03-2014, 07:56 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: this is the one you could own lol . . I'll have it off you mate
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03-03-2014, 08:02 PM
(03-03-2014, 08:00 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 07:56 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: this is the one you could own lol . . no worries, PM me your address, i'll send you my paypal and i'll post it off when i receive payment mate . .
Phase 1 D-Turdo, K14@24 psi, De-cat, meaty backbox, Bosch pump, grinded LDA pin, duel air fed K&N =133.7bhp & 188ft/lbs
03-03-2014, 08:05 PM
(03-03-2014, 08:02 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 08:00 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 07:56 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: this is the one you could own lol . . Done
03-03-2014, 08:07 PM
Hold up guys, the 1.4 system is not the same as the 1.6 system!
This is a 1.4 57i... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induct...46147353e3
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03-03-2014, 08:08 PM
(03-03-2014, 08:07 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Hold up guys, the 1.4 system is not the same as the 1.6 system! Hmmm but why would it be different Tom, they're practically the same engine . .
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03-03-2014, 08:09 PM
"Picture is purely for illustration purposes only, actual filter may differ to the one shown above."
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03-03-2014, 08:15 PM
(03-03-2014, 08:10 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: So will the one matt is selling fit my 1.4? i'll find out for sure and get back to you mate, i'm fairly certain it will but was a while ago when i bought it . .
Phase 1 D-Turdo, K14@24 psi, De-cat, meaty backbox, Bosch pump, grinded LDA pin, duel air fed K&N =133.7bhp & 188ft/lbs
03-03-2014, 08:16 PM
03-03-2014, 08:17 PM
The throttle body and airbox are different between the 1.4 and 1.6 iirc. I've got a pic of my old 1.4 with the KN 57i, but struggling to upload it atm.
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03-03-2014, 08:18 PM
(03-03-2014, 08:17 PM)Toms306 Wrote: The throttle body and airbox are different between the 1.4 and 1.6 iirc. I've got a pic of my old 1.4 with the KN 57i, but struggling to upload it atm. ok, be helpful if you can cheers mate . .
Phase 1 D-Turdo, K14@24 psi, De-cat, meaty backbox, Bosch pump, grinded LDA pin, duel air fed K&N =133.7bhp & 188ft/lbs
03-03-2014, 08:18 PM
Panel filter mate.
Cone filters create hot air feeds so you lose power. The best induction for your car is the one it came with. So with a better flowing filter, it's, better.
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03-03-2014, 08:27 PM
yeah it's different to that, although i think it might still fit, looks like they redesigned it, is that the same as your engine Nathan? . . .
Phase 1 D-Turdo, K14@24 psi, De-cat, meaty backbox, Bosch pump, grinded LDA pin, duel air fed K&N =133.7bhp & 188ft/lbs
03-03-2014, 08:38 PM
If you want it for "noise" wrap tights around your throttle body.
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03-03-2014, 08:43 PM
03-03-2014, 08:58 PM
The TB looks slightly different, but the airbox and breathers are the same still. Maybe Matt can get a pic of his to compare.
(03-03-2014, 08:38 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: If you want it for "noise" wrap tights around your throttle body. No, that would just be restrictive....theres a reason cones have a large surface area. 
03-03-2014, 09:01 PM
(03-03-2014, 08:58 PM)Toms306 Wrote: The TB looks slightly different, but the airbox and breathers are the same still. Maybe Matt can get a pic of his to compare. So if Matts Throttle Body looks like mine then the induction kit he has will fit mine?
Should do but I cant guarantee that lol. You're mainly looking at the part where the airbox connects to the TB, I'm also not sure if they're the same size on the 1.4 and 1.6. It seems odd to me that K&N would sell different induction kits if the same fitted both but not impossible.
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03-03-2014, 09:07 PM
i'll get a pic tomorrow . .
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03-03-2014, 09:15 PM
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(03-03-2014, 09:07 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: i'll get a pic tomorrow . . Okay thanks mate (03-03-2014, 09:05 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Should do but I cant guarantee that lol. You're mainly looking at the part where the airbox connects to the TB, I'm also not sure if they're the same size on the 1.4 and 1.6. It seems odd to me that K&N would sell different induction kits if the same fitted both but not impossible. Oh okay hopefully when Matt gets the picture tomorrow we can tell if it will fit
04-03-2014, 10:18 AM
Actually the TU's are one of the few engines that do respond well to an induction kit...
...but only because it ditches dinky little ~20mm venturi on the 1.4's that limits them to exactly 74bhp.
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04-03-2014, 10:42 AM
(04-03-2014, 10:18 AM)Rippthrough Wrote: Actually the TU's are one of the few engines that do respond well to an induction kit... Awesome so I should get a power improvement as well? I just hope the one Matt is selling fits mine
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