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Im having so much luck before FCS...
decided to fit my lower strut brace today. Took the passenger side bolt off no problem. The drivers side came out about 10mm and then there was a cracking noise.
Now the bolt and the nut it bolts into are both spinning together which means I cant do it up so its safe to drive or take it completely out to fit the strut brace!
The hole is too small to get anything more than a 15mm spanner in and the nut is at least 18mm! There is a metal rectangular shaped piece which i believe is meant to hold the nut into some kind of housing to stop it from spinning.
Either way its f*cked! Ideas?
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Mole grip the thread and turn the bolt ??
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literally cant get anything onto the nut. there is a 15mm x 7mm access to it. Ive tried wedging a screwdriver in to stop the nut from turning but the screwdriver got stuck 
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Remove whats in your way
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(24-07-2013, 03:58 PM)the milkman Wrote: Remove whats in your way
the entire subframe? D:
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Weld the nut to the chassis to stop it spinning or If you can't get in cut a hole for access your only options unless someone has a better idea
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ok got pictures...
The nut on the left of the front part of the wish bone keeps rotating...
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on the left in this photo you can see the hole...
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and the bolt pulls out this far with no resistance. So the nut has about 15mm movement inside whereever it should be!
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another photo...
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and this is part of the metal U shaped thing that fell on the floor
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That bit of subframe looks f*cked :/ just me?
Doesnt even own a 306.
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Grind down an 18mm spanner to get in the hole?
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Think best bet is to try and get some weld on that square bit to either make it bigger so it carnt spin in the section or weld it to something solid. Other than that out of ideas lol
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(24-07-2013, 04:22 PM)Tom Wrote: That bit of subframe looks f*cked :/ just me?
It doesn't look great, there shouldn't be a hole there...
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By the looks of it that bit that's fallen out maybe stopping the other but don spinning tried puttin it back in ??
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(24-07-2013, 04:32 PM)Scott Wrote: (24-07-2013, 04:22 PM)Tom Wrote: That bit of subframe looks f*cked :/ just me?
It doesn't look great, there shouldn't be a hole there...
Sure there is a hole there on every 306 so you can see the square nut thing, all though might be wrong lol
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Isn't that the stupid crappy thing that holds the bolt right so you can tighten it up? And I have known them to fall off because there not welded on. Grind down the edges of a spanner?
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Erm...doesn't that bolt go into a rectangular nut? Doesn't sound good 
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Had this before and literally had a tap a big flat head screw driver into the hole to hold the nut whilst I got the bolt out then I think i used a nissan micra wheel nut as a replacement when it all went back together!
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How f*cking tight was it? Must of been hellish.
Doesnt even own a 306.
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Angle grinding time!!! :p
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As a temporary solution, Jam it with a massive flat head and tighten it right up (you can actually get away with them not being that tight) Then replace it right after FCS! That subframe has been wrecked by someone!
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24-07-2013, 08:37 PM
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Woah, slow down there!
That bolt should be free, there's only about 5 threads in the captive nut. The bolt can be held in by the force being transferred to it by the wishbone, push the hub in while pulling on the bolt, it should come right out.
Edit: Missed the bit about the spinning nut. 
There should be a sort-of cage around the nut, can you bend it back into shape, or has it snapped off?
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Looks to me like you captive nut has broke loose and spun, this has pushed the mental out creating the hole, which must mean than the metal in your subframe is quite badly rotted, id replace the sub frame personaly
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Super long nose locking vice grips to get in there and hold it with?
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Them captive nut things will slide in an out if theres no bolt through them, I had to replace one of mine cos it was buggered.. itll move a fraction of a mm until it hits the subframe.. looks like yours is worn out.
As said jam a flat head/chisel etc in there and undo it, and see how fooked subframe is and go from there
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blahhhh this is not what i wanted right before FCS! D: Hopefully going to see Carl Chambers and a few garages tomorrow. Im thinking the welding the nut to the frame option is the best! Ive tried wedging the nut with a screwdriver but it just ate the screwdriver
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A whole lot of grinding and dremmeling later I finally got the 18mm spanner in the hole!
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spanner kept flying out and at one point flew so far I couldnt find it. Turned out to be stuck around the engine mount area! Cable tie kept it in whilst I used a 19mm wheel bar to take off the bolt. Then went down to 18mm ratchet once it was easy enough.
Got the bolt out. Strut brace on. Bolt did up perfectly!
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Glad it's sorted 
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