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Right, bear with me on this as i dont know what part i need, i just know where it is Smile Its on a ph2 LXTD.

Sometimes my aircon green light doesnt work which means the heater fan doesnt work either. To make it work again I have realised I need to wiggle a little brown plastic box to the upper left of the fuse box, it's set around the fuse box like the indicator relay etc is.

Is the brown box a relay for the aircon/heater??

If it is a relay would anyone have one I could purchase?

I bet cully does in his outdoor playroom Wink
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Let me refur to my hand book a mo lol

It actually has nothing about relays in the hand book???

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Cully's on holiday!

Sounds like relay but I can't remember a brown one inside my ph3! I can check if I've got one in my parts boxes tomorow though.
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(10-04-2013, 09:06 PM)puglove Wrote: Let me refur to my hand book a mo lol

It actually has nothing about relays in the hand book???

put down the pizzahut menu Jamie Wink


(10-04-2013, 09:13 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Cully's on holiday!

Sounds like relay but I can't remember a brown one inside my ph3! I can check if I've got one in my parts boxes tomorow though.

It's sort of brownish colour, middle/left of the top of the fuse box.

Cheers tom, Ill have a look at the car tomorrow, I swear its brownish and it's around relays so I'm guessing it is?
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Here is the fuse box, it's the brown one on the top left

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Is cully back from hols yet??
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Why is that a brown relay, in a green relay hole!? Confused

Pretty sure the one in mine was green.

I have -

3 Green
1 Black
1 grey
1 Orange

Only brown I had was in the bay.
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Looks like a relay!
Pull it out and check the base terminals of the rely and the socket for burned connections
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(15-04-2013, 08:50 AM)Toms306 Wrote: Why is that a brown relay, in a green relay hole!? Confused

Pretty sure the one in mine was green.

I have -

3 Green
1 Black
1 grey
1 Orange

Only brown I had was in the bay.


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(15-04-2013, 10:21 AM)cully Wrote: Looks like a relay!
Pull it out and check the base terminals of the rely and the socket for burned connections

will do, i shall report back Smile
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I probably have one mate Smile ill check when I go unit tomorrow If you like
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(15-04-2013, 02:47 PM)Danny2009 Wrote: I probably have one mate Smile ill check when I go unit tomorrow If you like

leg end mate Smile
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(15-04-2013, 10:21 AM)cully Wrote: Looks like a relay!
Pull it out and check the base terminals of the rely and the socket for burned connections

Cully the relay an plug are fried like a chippy !!! Help !!

Can I change the plug or..?

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Oh is anyone able to check i i should have a brown relay in a ph2 lxtd with aircon and should I have a brown relay as everyone says they have different ??
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two or three choices now!
clean up the terminals pinch the connectors tighter fingers crossed it fixes it! (bodge)

or

replace the green plug
go to the scrappy cut one out of another car and crimp into yours or cut yours out

or

cut you green socket off and crimp connectors that push onto the relay Wink




to remove the green socket push green tabs (red arrows) and twist (yellow) clockwise and push out the back of the board

   
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Cheers cully for the above, I don't suppose you have one knocking about?

What caused it, wrong relay or short circuit or..?
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(21-04-2013, 09:37 AM)devils_fuel Wrote: Cheers cully for the above, I don't suppose you have one knocking about?

What caused it, wrong relay or short circuit or..?

yes i do have some relays but i need them for kayleys car

and its normaly loose/bad connections that cause burning like that over time
its quite common on older cars to find this on removable plugs and relays supplying higher current items

oh and green sockets normaly have green relays
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(21-04-2013, 09:40 AM)cully Wrote:
(21-04-2013, 09:37 AM)devils_fuel Wrote: Cheers cully for the above, I don't suppose you have one knocking about?

What caused it, wrong relay or short circuit or..?

yes i do have some relays but i need them for kayleys car

and its normaly loose/bad connections that cause burning like that over time
its quite common on older cars to find this on removable plugs and relays supplying higher current items

Ah I meant the green plug, Danny off here is sending me a pair of brown relays. Are you able to check it should be a brown relay?

This is what's in the top of the brown relay

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no sorry don't have any loom sockets i used my last one for air horn relay Wink

there are two versions of the green relay 5pin(2pole switch) 4pin (1pole switch)
both fit the same socket

the brown relay is the same as the green 5pin relay except its polarised +/- coil and has a transient spike suppressor to stop inductive spikes killing electronic controlling systems
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No worries

So the brown relay is the right one then, didn't want to put the wrong one back in again if that was the case Smile

Thanks for you help cully Big Grin
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So brown it is then?

I have just unplugged the fuse box and removed the green plug, that burnt connection looked loose, so tightened the connection and fingers crossed as I'm about to reconnect the battery lol
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(21-04-2013, 09:40 AM)cully Wrote: oh and green sockets normaly have green relays
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So a green relay then Sad

Does anyone have a green relay I can purchase ?
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i'm braking up a ph2 cabby mate with a/c i'll check tomorrow if its got it do you want the relay or relay and the plug??
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How much for the green relay and the green plug with lots of spare flex behind? Posted to bs3

Cheers max
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(21-04-2013, 05:48 PM)devils_fuel Wrote: How much for the green relay and the green plug with lots of spare flex behind? Posted to bs3

Cheers max

sorry mate i just see you rpelyed

you sorted this if not give me a shout (pm) whats ya offer mate i haven't got a price in mind tbh i'm removing the back lights tonight so will pull it out for you if you still need it
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(25-04-2013, 06:35 AM)maxlee Wrote:
(21-04-2013, 05:48 PM)devils_fuel Wrote: How much for the green relay and the green plug with lots of spare flex behind? Posted to bs3

Cheers max

sorry mate i just see you rpelyed

you sorted this if not give me a shout (pm) whats ya offer mate i haven't got a price in mind tbh i'm removing the back lights tonight so will pull it out for you if you still need it



hi Max,

I have bought a pair and waiting for them to arrive, if they don't i will drop you a pm Smile

thanks for the reply fella
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That didn't look good Chris! :O
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Nah it's not Trent Sad

I have received 2 green relays in the post today, they are 4 pin and not 5 pin so wrong.. still looking for 5 pin relay from a ph2 with aircon - I guess they are brown and not green ?


Max is yours 5 pin from a car with aircon??
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Just had a look at a Haynes manual and pre 97 car is a 5 pin relay, post 97 is 4 pin but MYA is 97 (on the change from ph1 to ph2) ...so...

if the wrong relay is fitted will it do electrical damage or will the fan just not work?
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Wouldn't do electrical damage I wouldn't of thought just wouldn't work :/

I possiy have some green replays kicking about ill take a look later on
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