Stuck on my next choise of car :/

[sam]

Hey guys stuck on my next car either s16, ph1 gti6 or celica gt4?

[Niall]

s16 if you can get one but if not, gti. Them celicas aint all that!

[WiNgNuTz]

+1 for the S16 here

[Matt]

S16 everytime

[aggyj17]

I have a cherry red ph1 xsi with an s16 engine and leather if your interested has got gti6 axle brakes, nimrods

[sam]

Really want a s16 as niall said if I can find one but I really want a gt4 plus speaking to a mate of mine the other day and a stage 1 turbo kit, fmic, turbo back system, inducrion kit and a remap your looking at around 380hp

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I have a cherry red ph1 xsi with an s16 engine and leather if your interested has got gti6 axle brakes, nimrods

Wont be until the dt is done dude but ill keep that in mind chap

[cully]

Ive got the for a VTS at the moment

[aggyj17]

Ok mate i need to get my 205 dt done before i sell anyway lol. its only done 112k cambelt,waterpump,headgasket,clutch done at 104k rebuilt gti6 axle at 105k lowered 60mm on nimrods

[Piggy]

S16...all day every day every week every month every year.

best 306 ever. Possibly best fwd ever

[Blandy]

Ive had 2 gt4's and 2 mr2 turbos Gt4's are cracking cars but are thirsty on fuel tyres brakes etc compared to a 306 anyway, they are tuneable the st205 being the better car with 240bhp easily tuned to 300-320 before needing engine opening just depends what you want from a car i guess. From experience the toyotas are very reliable

[sam]

I want one more than the s16 or a 6, tyres and brakes will be ok as I work at kwikfit and I want the dt to be the last 306 I have for while so I want to make mine good before I get I sell it :/ plus there different but I wamt a bodied 2.1 s16......

[GTI 6]

Ph1 Gti 6 FTW
Got a white ph1 gti 6 coming in soon if your interested

[cwspellowe]

f*ck off the 306's and plump for a GT4. As said, ST205's are very capable cars, even more so the WRC spec with antilag as standard <3

DO IT!

[ozonehostile]

if you get a gt4, i have a decat titanium straight through exhaust from a celieca wrc car, also loads of suspension bits and the twin turbos with manifold

[Andy]

S16...

And with the money you save from not buying the GT Four.

Turbo the S16 x)

You know it makes sense!

[sam]

I know what your saying andy but whos going to buy a turbo s16 for 4k when I want to come to sell it? With a gt4 st205 which are holding there money well parts arent to bad on price plus the handling is insane and you want more power bolt a stage 1 turbo kit a boom 380/390 hp plus turboing a fwd car to that power you might aswell have arms like I buses to keep it straight and trust me I dont as I like my maccy d's to much

[Piggy]

think you have already decided matey

[sam]

Nope just putting out a point that I wouldnt turbo an s16 just boidie it but leaning towards the gt4 though

[cwspellowe]

GT4's are 4wd are they not?

[Just Sean]

Gt4 then buy ozones bits!!

[Ruan]

GT4s just aint all that unless you actually are going rallying...

It's too much of a serious car... An S16 you're able to explore the limits of the car without triple figure speeds... I've always said this about cars, Imprezas, Evos, stuff like that is ALL the same... If you're getting to the point where you're exploring the car on a public road, you're being f*cking stupid...

A friend of mine has an MR2 Turbo - same engine, admittedly RWD, but even so, it's probably ~320hp, but it's to the point where you put your foot down and instantly you're breaking the law... It's boring to me to have THAT much power with a chassis that can probably cope with another 100hp on top and still be within its comfort zone at 120mph+... I'd MUCH rather have a 306 where you can chuck it down twisties and if you want you can put your serious face on and attack it, if you want you can leave the throttle trailing and have the lovely french hatch-esque tail tuck in as you corner... At MUCH more legal speeds...

[Frosty]

Get a S16. There are pretty cheap to pick up, i only paid £200 for mine

[sam]

Fair point ruan but I want to get out of the french side of cars and explore with jap as I cant stand german as there really really boring and I want to staty doing track days to.... but I dont want to finish on the dt and want an s16/gti6 bit for the sake price for the bits for a 306 for what I want you can gain more with a gt4 :/

[Midnightclub]

My mate had a GT4... it's been on his drive for the last few months whilst he's been breaking it.. spent a stupid amount on it and got f*ck all back.. Bottom end went on it... paid over £700 for a low miler engine to be sent over from japan.. not a month later and the bottom end is gone.. IMO not reliable at all.

That said, in a straight line that thing was rapid, 0-60 even in the wet must've been around 5 seconds, it'd spin up all 4 wheels in the dry no problem but it just didn't feel that 'fun' in the corners, sure it gripped but it just didn't feel fun til you were going sideways or going silly speeds..

[sam]

Hmmm true dont think I could wait untill a new engine from japan as I have a shourt fuse haha im pulling my hair out and I blew my turbo up a week ago

[Jonny b]

Tbh my mates old 300 hp gt4 couldn't get away from me anyways! Did sound Fooking awesome though

[Ruan]

Of course the bottom end went bang - it's a 3S-GTE...

[sam]

That amswers thay one then im not getting a car if the bottom end goes often

[n0v0s]

Of course the bottom end went bang - it's a 3S-GTE...

Eh?! These engines can run 300bhp no problem. Apparently, upwards of 400bhp is possible on standard bottom end with an aftermarket ecu/proper tuning. I would imagine neglect and pleb tuning is what causes the blown engines.. Unless there is something in particular I am missing?

[Tom]

Forgive me for being dumb here but whats better about an s16 compared to a '6 or a Wallye?

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