11-12-2014, 01:15 PM
Well my population comment stirred up a nice debate. In response to a couple of earlier posts and to just offer my spin...
Someone mentioned making people work for their dole money. Great ideas get em sweeping the streets etc anything that is productive to society and makes them to tired to riot and rob JDs. Issue with that is it breaks the minimum wage law. If you work you are entitled to minimum wage, which correct if I'm wrong, is still higher than basic job seeker's allowance (considering no kids etc).
In response to other posts about death sentences and things these would ruin the moral fabric of society and overall cause a general decay. The Germans could live with the anti-semetism because they weren't confronted with what they were doing with them in the camps... Whereas if we're talking hypothetically sterilisation is a much more humane solution as this allows that person to lead a full, rich, rewarding and long life just without having increased the population. This would slowly and in a controlled way bring the population down to more manageable levels.
Issues with this solution? How to sterilise huge volumes of people especially outside the western world. All the worlds economies and economic growth is off the back of ever expanding populations and need for consumption (which is why one day we will come unstuck) so a retracting population would cause issues (look at any nation with a decreasing population, eg Russia their economy despite huge reserves of natural resources are struggling, Germany's native population is actually decreasing to but the number are kept up thanks to immigration). The other major stumbling block would be how you are chosen. Lottery seems fair as "picking" the best and brightest would be subjective and it would just so happen that the guy making the decision is selected as are all his family and friends.
As I'm fairly right wing I obviously believe in a laisse faire state where if you want something you pay for
it. So if someone wants kids; fine YOU pay for them.if you want to be fat FINE you pay for healthcare. If you want to drive a fast car fine YOU pay for the fuel etc. I don't think the government should be responsible for regulating what we can / can't buy and shouldn't be responsible for paying people to sit around doing nothing. Issue is what do you do with these people? If u don't pay benefits people will turn to a life of crime... If you don't pay for people's healthcare you'll have a lot of corpses on your hands!
Or we can all just say balls to it all, keep on driving, reproducing and see what happens. I vote this!!
Someone mentioned making people work for their dole money. Great ideas get em sweeping the streets etc anything that is productive to society and makes them to tired to riot and rob JDs. Issue with that is it breaks the minimum wage law. If you work you are entitled to minimum wage, which correct if I'm wrong, is still higher than basic job seeker's allowance (considering no kids etc).
In response to other posts about death sentences and things these would ruin the moral fabric of society and overall cause a general decay. The Germans could live with the anti-semetism because they weren't confronted with what they were doing with them in the camps... Whereas if we're talking hypothetically sterilisation is a much more humane solution as this allows that person to lead a full, rich, rewarding and long life just without having increased the population. This would slowly and in a controlled way bring the population down to more manageable levels.
Issues with this solution? How to sterilise huge volumes of people especially outside the western world. All the worlds economies and economic growth is off the back of ever expanding populations and need for consumption (which is why one day we will come unstuck) so a retracting population would cause issues (look at any nation with a decreasing population, eg Russia their economy despite huge reserves of natural resources are struggling, Germany's native population is actually decreasing to but the number are kept up thanks to immigration). The other major stumbling block would be how you are chosen. Lottery seems fair as "picking" the best and brightest would be subjective and it would just so happen that the guy making the decision is selected as are all his family and friends.
As I'm fairly right wing I obviously believe in a laisse faire state where if you want something you pay for
it. So if someone wants kids; fine YOU pay for them.if you want to be fat FINE you pay for healthcare. If you want to drive a fast car fine YOU pay for the fuel etc. I don't think the government should be responsible for regulating what we can / can't buy and shouldn't be responsible for paying people to sit around doing nothing. Issue is what do you do with these people? If u don't pay benefits people will turn to a life of crime... If you don't pay for people's healthcare you'll have a lot of corpses on your hands!
Or we can all just say balls to it all, keep on driving, reproducing and see what happens. I vote this!!
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