Grrr, Black Cars

[Toms306]

Well obviously not anything...but a heavy octavia with a standard 1.8t....yep.

Heavy like a GT TDI you mean? The Skoda is 90 kilos heavier than yours, not much difference really? Difference is, yours probably pulls nearly as hard, but it's only quick if you don't have to change gear. Like I say, I can go from 10 mph to 80 mph in one gear, it's far faster than a remapped 130 because you may well have 170bhp (which the majority agree is the most you can get from a mapped 130 if you want to keep a decent torque curve. Oh, and not blow stuff up like turbos), but you only have it in one big lump, then you have to change gear. You forget Tom, I've driven a lot of cars, probably 10+ 130 TDIs and 10+ 1.8Ts, have you even driven a 1.8T? You said you gave a 1.8T Golf a shock, but was he even trying? My mate has a Bora 130 with a Jabba remap (not some random one off the Internet), when I told him what you said he just laughed and shook his head...

Don't get me wrong, your Golf is pretty decent, very economical and I'm sure it's pretty nippy, probably quicker than a 150 1.8T even (like the one you put it against) but it won't stay with a 180, fact. And even if it would, you've spent a lot of money and blown up a turbo to draw level with a standard car you could have bought for £1500-£2000 less. And let's not even talk about mine with a remap, new turbo and induction eh?

Yes I've driven a few 1.8t's.........including my mates old octy vrs lol. Why else do you think I'd find the standard 130/150tdis so damn slow...cos they're certainly quicker than any 306 i've owned. I just can't afford to run them. I don't know what setup your mates running (on an even heavier bora lol) but if he just had a jabba map without anything else then its probably only 165bhp (so they can warranty it as safe and cover themselves) ...in a heavy bora....

Also dunno where you can buy a decent 1.8t vrs for £500 lol, but yeah I could have one for around £700 cheaper round here (£1300).......then paid over double to tax it, over double to fuel it, and a hell of a lot more on insurance even after all the mods on the golf. I could've done my mods cheaper tbf, I bought some stuff wrong, and paid a bit extra for some stuff as I was desperate for it at the time.

So now if you look at the fact the 1.8t would cost me £60 a week to fuel instead of £30, over a year thats £1500 more in fuel alone!! :o Then you've got the extra £100 tax over the diesel (£115 a year) and about £200 extra on insurance. Thats £1800 extra for a 1.8t over the year instead of ~£300 of mods (not inc turbo)...makes a hell of a difference. I'm not gonna go into speed/bhp figures until I've been on the rollers so you might aswell just leave that for now. I'm sure a 1.8t is good for you, iirc you do mainly town traffic and not often 'long' distances (whereas I frequently do 50miles a day). And clearly you're not bothered about tax or mpg as you earn enough to cover it.

And as for the turbo, turns out it probably wasn't the map that broke it, the bearings are perfectly fine, even had the garage check it over for me, so I'm thinking it was most likely caused by excess oil pressure. :oops: