13-04-2012, 02:03 PM
ginge191 Wrote:Niall Wrote:What makes a uni student better at my job than me?
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What job do you do exactly? Personally, certain managerial roles are for degree students.
again, niall, degrees aren't just a piece of paper.
One example - An engineering officer through the forces requires a specialist or BSc degreee - this demonstrates dedication, organisational and competency. There is no way in saying that these skills are not in the labour force within the company, and you can work up to that position by all means, but that officer does NOT need to know how to do a job which he/she is managing. There is no need - that higher role is to organise staff roles, requirements and moral.
IF that higher position needs to know any details on that job, he/she can ask the labour force for those details in assisting managing time keeping and role assigning.
again, referring to your point earlier, there needs to be a variety - for a manager to be a specialist in the field they are managing, would only be a waste - their skills being sat behind a desk?? pointless..
Woah this all took off since I last looked here!
Ginge I'm a fire alarm engineer. A job that requires me to have a knowledge of quite a few different fields. Did I go to college for it? No. Did I have any papers saying I could do it before I started the job? No (and it wasn't a trainee job btw).
Funnily enough there was 3 of us in my interview, 1 of which was a fresh graduate with a degree in electrical engineering. I can safely say from listening to him rabbit on about him self that he had no idea of the real world and this is probably why he didn't get the job. His fault? Possibily not. The unis and government are so insistent on telling people that uni WILL get you places in life and this is not 100% true.
I know of people who went to uni and got qualifications in various roles and they have never worked a day in that roll in their life. Why? Because despite what the unis and government want you to believe, it is not a ticket to the job of your dreams!
I also think you talk rubbish about some managerial roles are for graduates. Have you ever heard of the saying "don't make your staff do something you wouldn't do"?
A manager needs to have been in a role to understand the real role. It's all well and good sitting behind a desk being told how it is but is that how it happens in real life? Rarely! And for this reason, this is why you very rarely see young managers (excluding places like mcdonnalds lol). Because if you have just walked out of uni without doing the real job, chances are you have no clue as to how things really are! My personal opinion is that this is mainly due to the uni/government trying to tell everyone they can do anything with no limitations and that simply isn't true.
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