better handeling, what do i need.

[Grant]

No your correct they won't use b4s.
It gets on my tits that people seem to think they can bolt on some cheap coils and crappy rear shocks and away they go. Simply not true. There is a large amount of tuning needed but this of course depends on the surface you will be using the car on!

Think we're moving away from the point of this thread but I will say that I do think you should try a car with eBay coils if possible. I know for a fact that grants might as well just have welded shocks but I have also heard of people having eBay coils and they wallow horrendously! Seems that the makers are a lot like Peugeot and use what they have to hand at the time!
Simple thing is, coilies for adjustable height, or bilsteins/standard shocks or similar for a shock that will more than likely outlast the coilies but you loose the height adjustability.

So you have not accepted my wager there? It still stands buddy.... With an audience.... Just to prove a point

Yes my shocks may be stiff, and yes they are not race spec, but please explain to me what is to bad about them?
What makes spending £££ on brands better?
What large amount of tuning has your car undergone to make it better than any other? As you say above...


Why are adjustable coilovers worse? Straight answer please......