(22-07-2015, 06:13 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote:(22-07-2015, 06:01 PM)Toms306 Wrote:(22-07-2015, 05:45 PM)Poodle Wrote: Most people are idiots.
Me included....for buying one...
I really wouldn't buy another. I also wouldn't stick an archaic 8v DW10 in either though.
Later 16v DW10 136 would be my preference tbh. They're not cheap to buy though, I'd have have swapped out the crappy 1.6 for one by now if they were.
Can you justify why the 1.6 is so crap? As has been said, the problems people report are nearly always caused by neglect or poor quality servicing.
I bought mine on 46k, 2 previous owners, full Ford history (some dealer, some independent).
DPF was blocked when I bought it (yes, 46k!), despite changing DPF, topping up Eolys, checking pipes and sensors and doing all the correct stuff with diags I am still having DPF issues. The DPF doesn't get hot enough at 70mph even on a 30c day with AC on to passively regen - so it's rinsing fuel roughly once a week to actively regen, and the power loss is noticeable a day or 2 before it needs regen'ing, the backpressure causes a jerky/struggling feeling, which will ultimately ruin the turbo if the carbon doesn't get it first.
MPG is poor - it's only 110bhp and not massively heavy compared with a Golf/Astra etc - how can it struggle to maintain 55mpg at a constant speed!? In fact on a purely 70mph trip the computer reckons its more like 50mpg, a 2.0 will do that and more ffs. People buy diesels for long runs, whats the point of a diesel that is better round town/backroads!
Power is shit. Not so much the power itself but the delivery is terrible. Its mapped in such a way to avoid hurting the DPF or allowing NOx - which means you try pulling away normally and the power dips. Put your foot down and it lags/bogs/hesitates. Not only annoying but damn dangerous imo. Only way to get a quick pull away is to rev the tits off it and chirp a tyre as you go - wasting fuel and adding to the soot in the DPF. Then you quickly run out of puff, granted its a tiny turbo, but theres nowhere near enough top end for me. Don't get me wrong there is a very brief period of power which is impressive for a 1.6 - but someone cuts in, slows you down and it then takes forever to build the speed again so I tend to tailgate them to avoid that situation, I blame the engine lol, plus once again wasting fuel because it takes so long to build speed - you could drop a gear but then you're at the top of the rev band so making no more power anyway.
Add to that the fact that the injectors will eventually leak which you won't notice for months when it'll be too late. The turbo will eventually pop regardless of servicing. And the DPF will always be shit.
On the plus side, the tax is cheap - that really is the only plus side to the DV6. I did a lot of research into them before buying - and was interested in the amount of tech that went into making them so light and efficient in theory. But in practice it just doesn't work. I bought it knowing it wouldn't be overly fast, but expecting decent mpg, easy cruising power (being diesel), a reasonable powerband (being VNT) and not to expect death at every quick junction.
The 2.0 would cost more in tax, but MPG wouldn't be any worse, you'd get better power all round and better reliability (from the Focus' on Ford forums at least) so that's what I'll be going for next. Would've already swapped but my Focus is loaded with optional spec that most didn't get, and I haven't seen a local 2.0 with the same spec so far. I really do dislike the 1.6 that much, which is a shame as I like Focus itself.