25-12-2014, 06:53 PM
So I sorn'd the 306 on the 16th and teh cheque arrived on the 19th with a 2nd class mark on it. Not bad !!
Found some time over the past couple of days on the wind down to crack on with this. Stage 1
No front end.
Tried to remove the 4 13mm bolts, couldn't find the bottom two. Took the head lights out (not hard) and then after much swearing and removing teh bumper on the pass side I found them. Well hidden. Least I know now tho eh
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTZmJuMEdmSGEyUUk]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTZmJuMEdmSGEyUUk)
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTWFExWGN6cDBDU3M]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTWFExWGN6cDBDU3M)
I thought I would not enjoy doing this, but it's actually been far easier than I thought it would be.
Example, getting the driveshafts out. Whilst the drv side is mildy irritating for the two bearing retainer bolts, as least there is far less to undo the suspension to get them out compared to my hondas which need the shock removing then the top of teh suspension dislocating. Joys of double wishbone
So getting the engine out wasn't too bad. Took about 40 mins from where I left it in the above pic.
Got away with doing it this morning after the wee one went down for a nap.
Lift ready
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTbXlrcFVVbjVuZXc]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTbXlrcFVVbjVuZXc)
Engine out
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTOU9SSzB1bWs3T2c]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTOU9SSzB1bWs3T2c)
Engine Mobile
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTSkxYdTZDdVR1dGc]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTSkxYdTZDdVR1dGc)
So yeah, I guess if you are blowing them up pushing the limits, swapping in a new engine isn't the end of the world really.
Observations and a couple of questions...
Tiny Turbo - T2 so small isn't it.
Will have to do something about that as I'm pretty sure without putting it in the accord that the turbo aint gonna work there, or certainly the DP will need changing for custom.
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTdzMwVFpBSGZZMGs]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTdzMwVFpBSGZZMGs)
Gearbox Mount
Has anyone sealed this up so that it's not U shaped? Does the vibration increase massively ??
The rear lower one also seemed awfully soft.
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTRkhnNldZNWhzQlk]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTRkhnNldZNWhzQlk)
Follow up question on gearbox mounts, if I have the single bolt out I noticed to the left of the (looking from the front) that there is a second hole. Does anyone know what application both holes are used for ?
I'm thinking for my mounts taking the single bolt out and making up a mount that bolts to both holes will work better. Just curious what it's used for since it's so handy
Honda shaft along side the 306 shaft from the opposite side.
They are about the same overall length (bearing in mind compression of suspension and position of the spiders).
The other longer 306 shaft is also about the same size as the honda pass shaft & intermediate combo.
The problem ??
Honda shaft is 26 spline.
306 shaft is 25 spline.
*&(%*^$%*^$%"$^*%$"
Does anyone know if there is a shaft from the PSA world with 26 splines on the hub end please ? This would save quite a bit of work making a hybrid I think as the lengths are close enough to "just work" !!
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTaDJfZ08xdGNPQUU]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTaDJfZ08xdGNPQUU)
Gunk & top bolt
This engine is filthy
Awful lot of burnt on veg is covering it all over.
The chassis is never gonna rust... so a donor for someone ??
Doesn't help that the valve cover bolt was also this loose.
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTZTR1b0lrQWotWDQ]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTZTR1b0lrQWotWDQ)
No rush to clean the engine. I'm leaving it alone for now to get things working. Beautification can come later with a tear down
Top coolant hoses.
During removing bits I noted two small bore coolant pipes on the top of the engine.
Is this the highest point in the head and where we'd see airlocks ?
I have room in the accord for a header tank above the engine height. So these going into that would hopefully stop airlocks ?
![[Image: uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTUDJoblY4alJCR2c]](http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B5F7BwTGdHnTUDJoblY4alJCR2c)
That would be teh one on teh far right of this pic just behind the fuel filter housing, and the other on the left just under the clip that the intercooler sits on top of.
The heater on this had died and the hoses were linked. I crushed that link down to narrow it when I got it but it pressurised so suspect the HG may be gone.
The hose from the thermostat had foam in it ! and I guess very little water.
I'm floored at the amount of water pipes running from teh back of teh block to the front or the radiator.
I haven't taken much of a look at the coolant system yet, but it seems a bit of a mess. Anyone done any work in this area to make more sense of it at all ? I'm going to see about modifying things here to give me some more room. Where things are coming from and going to. I'll be running an accord rad and it only has one entry and exit so I have to do something on this.
Hopefully before new years I'll have the engine out of the accord. Weather permitting. Says it's gonna snow tomorrow....
Merry xmas
Found some time over the past couple of days on the wind down to crack on with this. Stage 1
No front end.
Tried to remove the 4 13mm bolts, couldn't find the bottom two. Took the head lights out (not hard) and then after much swearing and removing teh bumper on the pass side I found them. Well hidden. Least I know now tho eh
I thought I would not enjoy doing this, but it's actually been far easier than I thought it would be.
Example, getting the driveshafts out. Whilst the drv side is mildy irritating for the two bearing retainer bolts, as least there is far less to undo the suspension to get them out compared to my hondas which need the shock removing then the top of teh suspension dislocating. Joys of double wishbone
So getting the engine out wasn't too bad. Took about 40 mins from where I left it in the above pic.
Got away with doing it this morning after the wee one went down for a nap.
Lift ready
Engine out
Engine Mobile
So yeah, I guess if you are blowing them up pushing the limits, swapping in a new engine isn't the end of the world really.
Observations and a couple of questions...
Tiny Turbo - T2 so small isn't it.
Will have to do something about that as I'm pretty sure without putting it in the accord that the turbo aint gonna work there, or certainly the DP will need changing for custom.
Gearbox Mount
Has anyone sealed this up so that it's not U shaped? Does the vibration increase massively ??
The rear lower one also seemed awfully soft.
Follow up question on gearbox mounts, if I have the single bolt out I noticed to the left of the (looking from the front) that there is a second hole. Does anyone know what application both holes are used for ?
I'm thinking for my mounts taking the single bolt out and making up a mount that bolts to both holes will work better. Just curious what it's used for since it's so handy
Honda shaft along side the 306 shaft from the opposite side.
They are about the same overall length (bearing in mind compression of suspension and position of the spiders).
The other longer 306 shaft is also about the same size as the honda pass shaft & intermediate combo.
The problem ??
Honda shaft is 26 spline.
306 shaft is 25 spline.
*&(%*^$%*^$%"$^*%$"
Does anyone know if there is a shaft from the PSA world with 26 splines on the hub end please ? This would save quite a bit of work making a hybrid I think as the lengths are close enough to "just work" !!
Gunk & top bolt
This engine is filthy
Awful lot of burnt on veg is covering it all over.
The chassis is never gonna rust... so a donor for someone ??
Doesn't help that the valve cover bolt was also this loose.
No rush to clean the engine. I'm leaving it alone for now to get things working. Beautification can come later with a tear down
Top coolant hoses.
During removing bits I noted two small bore coolant pipes on the top of the engine.
Is this the highest point in the head and where we'd see airlocks ?
I have room in the accord for a header tank above the engine height. So these going into that would hopefully stop airlocks ?
That would be teh one on teh far right of this pic just behind the fuel filter housing, and the other on the left just under the clip that the intercooler sits on top of.
The heater on this had died and the hoses were linked. I crushed that link down to narrow it when I got it but it pressurised so suspect the HG may be gone.
The hose from the thermostat had foam in it ! and I guess very little water.
I'm floored at the amount of water pipes running from teh back of teh block to the front or the radiator.
I haven't taken much of a look at the coolant system yet, but it seems a bit of a mess. Anyone done any work in this area to make more sense of it at all ? I'm going to see about modifying things here to give me some more room. Where things are coming from and going to. I'll be running an accord rad and it only has one entry and exit so I have to do something on this.
Hopefully before new years I'll have the engine out of the accord. Weather permitting. Says it's gonna snow tomorrow....
Merry xmas