Newer Diesels...

[Toms306]

I'm going to suggest a Renault laguna 2l dci, although they're possibly out of the price range you're looking at, but alot of car for the money, talking 56 plate sort of age, the ones that have blackmasked headlights

First of all its a big French car so comfort is king, 150bhp 2l diesel, really nice place to be inside

My old man has had loads of lagunas now, this is probably the best Renault made before they started cheaping out bigtime on build quality like the newer ones. Put 60k on it so far after owning it about a year and a half, drives all over the UK and Europe usually with 200kg of tools in the boot and has never missed a beat, only thing so far was the vanes on the turbo stuck open for a couple of days leading to having no power pulling away from traffic lights and then all of the power resulting in wheel spin and coal but that sorted itself lol

Never had an issue with any emissions stuff, think just driving it and getting everything warmed up properly is key, I'm sure exclusively driving around town it probably wouldn't be so good.

Main thing it's had done was the 120k service by Renault where they replace every bush in the suspension front and rear and regas the aircon etc

Big thumbs up from my perspective anyway, I'll be looking at getting something like that to use as a tow car in a couple of years

I only know of 2 Laguna's...both have left their owners stranded because of that stupid key card thing!

I did actually look at them, but they're too big tbh, high tax bracket (£175 a year) and not overly good mpg figures.

There is a Megane DCi near me, but its a Renualtsport one which probably means its uncomfotbale lol.

Prius? Not joking.

Ps. I know it's not derv.

They get terrible mpg tbh. You're using a 1.8 petrol most of the time lol, think its only battery powered under 30mph....that's about 5% of my drive.

L series?

Why not petrol? Do you really need the torque of a diesel? A small engined petrol can be very good on fuel too. what is the car even going to be used for?

Rover 45/75? Yes they're getting on a bit now but damn cheap and parts are easy to replace. 45 is somewhat large with a double wishbone suspension setup and hydraulic clutch whereas the 75 is partially a bmw and no doubt very soft ride with lots of creature comforts. plus 75 has a bmw diesel engine so take from that what you will

(yes I am fighting the rover corner )

Not petrol because at the size I'm looking at for road comfort, they're just not economical any more, which mean high tax as well. Plus they're unbelievably slow to get an 'eco' petrol in a midsized car. I'm not fused about top speed, but I forget how often I need overtaking power round here until I don't have the option. Driving the 107 was actually not bad, it didn't feel slow or like I was holding anyone up...until I came against a cyclist or some farm machinery (every few minutes on this road lol!). It was genuinely dangerous trying to overtake in it.

Whats the car going to be used for - probably as a driveway ornament most of the time. Just to pop to the shops twice a week (30 mile round trip lol), visiting Nan etc. BUT the idea of getting something newer, more reliable (hopefully!) and cheaper to run is that I can afford to drive it more and trust the car to go out further. However the 107 obviously didn't have the right effect...and tbh I'm doubting that any car will. Personally I'd stick with the HDi and just not go out much, but apparently it's not helping me (which I must admit is correct lol). I've kinda been pushed into this but that's not really relevant for this thread.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/a...?logcode=p

15 seconds to 60....how is that even legal...?

The economy figures look amazing though...too good to be true surely, is that yours?

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Christ, the 120d's are in the £180 tax band with book figures of less than 50mpg!? That's them out then!

And you are right, they're too far away. It's the distance, it's not who takes me lol, though a passenger ride would actually be worse, especially seeing as Mum drives a small car with a shit ride lol.