Another what car thread...

[Midnightclub]

I don't doubt that they're a quick car with good handling, but they're not a car you can grab 'by the scruff of the neck' and really push your luck in - they're a big car at the end of the day, nothing like what a light-footed hot hatch can do.

Without meaning to sound condescending, have you even driven a properly setup 3 series? Or is that opinion based purely on thought? Genuine question.

As stock I'll admit they have more body roll than i'd have liked but it's a compromise between comfort and handling ability. Oodles of grip and a perfectly balanced chassis however mean you can 'grab it by the scruff of the neck' and really feel where the limits are before it lets go. Yes it's a big car, but for instance, it only weighs about 200kg more than a GTi6 and when you see the build quality difference, you start to wonder how it's ONLY that much heavier.. and able to drive the way they do.

My best advice for you however Tom, is to just test drive as many cars as you can