14-05-2014, 09:06 PM
Before I say what I'm about to let me clarify that I agree with all the above with regards to these Britain First morons, and EDL, just a bunch of yobos looking to cause trouble and stir up hate and place the blame elsewhere.
But:
With regards to political support / persuasion, views on immigration, views on the immigrants themselves, views on homeland matters and 'multi-cultural' society I must say (only a personal opinion not a statement of fact and not solely in regards to this forum but other forums and groups I follow elsewhere) there is very much a North - South divide that I can see.
People down south to me seem to tolerate a awful lot more, have softer views towards immigrants & immigration, and believe a lot more in this 'multi-cultural society' that the government seem to sell to the world.
My own personal view on all matters is I just want to be left the hell alone and out of it. All politicians regardless of party are crooks, and although UKIP are primarily a bunch of tossers I think their presence is a good thing! The old ethos of better the devil you know than the devil you don't just doesn't cut it anymore and the only way to change things is to make them take notice, so let the tossers in, let them wreck it then kick them out. The other parties will then be forced to take notice of the voters again and be forced to reform from the ground up actually listening to the whole country rather than just their favourite donors and areas.
I do think immigration does need controlling more, I also whole heartedly disagree with the whole being a memeber of Europe means you can just arrive and claim everything my taxes pay for! And thats not just if you arrive and want to sit on your arse, I think even if you arrive to work from Europe or elsewhere you should be charged for all NHS services and not claim any child benefit or tax credits. You chose to come here as a guest to work, you pay your way then once your done you return, after all if any of us travelled to their countries that's how it'd work for us.
Haha that turned into a bit of a rant but hey ho. back on topic, the current unrest which is only fuelled by the media is just giving mornons who wouldn't know politics if it jumped up and slapped them in the face mis-guided information to rant about and further their petty minded racist bigotry the only way they know how, annonmously on the net via silly little facebook grous until they've grown in numbers enough to go out as a group of 'supporters' to cause more unrest, to make more headlines, to further fuel the circle. I'm just sick of it all, my opinions are my own, the politicians don't listen, and although I'm sure I'm not alone in my views they'll never become a reality so I just plod along and ignore everything that winds me up.
I treat people regardless of skin colour, nationality, or anything else as I myself would like to be treated by them. Manners cost nothing at all no matter who you are or where your from, and if everyone did the same then pretty much all todays problems would disappear.
But:
With regards to political support / persuasion, views on immigration, views on the immigrants themselves, views on homeland matters and 'multi-cultural' society I must say (only a personal opinion not a statement of fact and not solely in regards to this forum but other forums and groups I follow elsewhere) there is very much a North - South divide that I can see.
People down south to me seem to tolerate a awful lot more, have softer views towards immigrants & immigration, and believe a lot more in this 'multi-cultural society' that the government seem to sell to the world.
My own personal view on all matters is I just want to be left the hell alone and out of it. All politicians regardless of party are crooks, and although UKIP are primarily a bunch of tossers I think their presence is a good thing! The old ethos of better the devil you know than the devil you don't just doesn't cut it anymore and the only way to change things is to make them take notice, so let the tossers in, let them wreck it then kick them out. The other parties will then be forced to take notice of the voters again and be forced to reform from the ground up actually listening to the whole country rather than just their favourite donors and areas.
I do think immigration does need controlling more, I also whole heartedly disagree with the whole being a memeber of Europe means you can just arrive and claim everything my taxes pay for! And thats not just if you arrive and want to sit on your arse, I think even if you arrive to work from Europe or elsewhere you should be charged for all NHS services and not claim any child benefit or tax credits. You chose to come here as a guest to work, you pay your way then once your done you return, after all if any of us travelled to their countries that's how it'd work for us.
Haha that turned into a bit of a rant but hey ho. back on topic, the current unrest which is only fuelled by the media is just giving mornons who wouldn't know politics if it jumped up and slapped them in the face mis-guided information to rant about and further their petty minded racist bigotry the only way they know how, annonmously on the net via silly little facebook grous until they've grown in numbers enough to go out as a group of 'supporters' to cause more unrest, to make more headlines, to further fuel the circle. I'm just sick of it all, my opinions are my own, the politicians don't listen, and although I'm sure I'm not alone in my views they'll never become a reality so I just plod along and ignore everything that winds me up.
I treat people regardless of skin colour, nationality, or anything else as I myself would like to be treated by them. Manners cost nothing at all no matter who you are or where your from, and if everyone did the same then pretty much all todays problems would disappear.