The end of the combustion engine as we know it?

[Kezzieboy]

If you listen to one side it's already too late, listen to the other and pollution is just a hippy theory to earn the government more tax. The truth is most likely somewhere in the middle, but this right here should be the real concern:

I think the common destructive factor in that case is human nature..

What happens when someone discovers a problem that someone else is making money from? You get every useless bastard in the pub spreading theories about how it's all a plan by the government/banks/corporations/USA/freemasons/insert-sensationalist-scapegoat-here to rip everybody off. Now worrying about that really is too late. In the meantime the destructive practices continue and useful debate gets bogged down by political lobbyists and idiots who deny everything in case it upsets their little world.

Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to gauge properly.

And I like to think that people are inherently good, and get conditioned to be greedy lady gardens

They do say there's one born every minute. I used to think like you then i met some people outside of uni lol. As far as i can tell, there's no "good", just degrees of selfish.

EXACTLY that. Couldn't have put it better myself.

And yeah, you're probably right but I'm too young and life's too long to resign myself to that opinion already Oh, and you were lucky if the people you met at uni were nice/not selfish, most of the people at UoB are private schooled, molly coddled, 'daddy will pay' arseholes.