10-01-2014, 02:58 PM
Interesting debate, if you listen to radio/ watch the news on TV etc you could be forgiven for thinking (judging by the screaming shouting hordes heckling the Police spokesman) that public opinion is firmly with the Duggan family, but if we are to assume the opinions posted here are a more accurate reflection of actual public opinion rather than that of the rent a mob outside the court then it seems the ‘man in the street’ wholeheartedly supports the Police in this matter.
We live in a country where people aren’t routinely shot on the street, I myself have never had a gun pointed ay me but then I’m not involved in crime and don’t carry / deal in firearms, ‘live by the sword die by the sword ‘ is a little clichéd but in this case just about sums it up,
Quite how the Duggan family intend to fight for ‘justice’ is beyond me, Mark Duggan wasn’t shot by Police because he was black/mixed race, he wasn’t targeted at random, he wasn’t ‘executed, he was killed because as a armed man running round London he posed a clear threat to both Police and public, he was killed as a result of his involvement in crime specifically gang activity, drugs and firearms, not quite the doting father and all round ‘nice chap’ his supporters portray him as.
This guy wasn’t a lovable rouge he was a nasty piece of work and while no one wants to see criminals shot down in the street and fortunately it’s a very rare occurrence but when it does happen the blame must fall firmly on the perpetrator, it’s like when grieving parents blame perusing Police for the death of a teen joy rider, they say the Police caused them to crash by chasing them, I say if they hadn’t nicked someone’s pride and joy in the first place they’d still be alive, people need to take responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming the consequences of these actions on others.
The Police have a thankless task, it must take some balls to approach a suspect with little more than a metal stick and some pepper spray, remember beat Police aren’t armed but are generally the first responders, and as a reward for putting themselves in a possible life threatening situation every aspect of their conduct and procedure is scrutinised by high ranking officers who are little more than politicians in uniform, the quote ‘loins led by donkeys' comes to mind
We live in a country where people aren’t routinely shot on the street, I myself have never had a gun pointed ay me but then I’m not involved in crime and don’t carry / deal in firearms, ‘live by the sword die by the sword ‘ is a little clichéd but in this case just about sums it up,
Quite how the Duggan family intend to fight for ‘justice’ is beyond me, Mark Duggan wasn’t shot by Police because he was black/mixed race, he wasn’t targeted at random, he wasn’t ‘executed, he was killed because as a armed man running round London he posed a clear threat to both Police and public, he was killed as a result of his involvement in crime specifically gang activity, drugs and firearms, not quite the doting father and all round ‘nice chap’ his supporters portray him as.
This guy wasn’t a lovable rouge he was a nasty piece of work and while no one wants to see criminals shot down in the street and fortunately it’s a very rare occurrence but when it does happen the blame must fall firmly on the perpetrator, it’s like when grieving parents blame perusing Police for the death of a teen joy rider, they say the Police caused them to crash by chasing them, I say if they hadn’t nicked someone’s pride and joy in the first place they’d still be alive, people need to take responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming the consequences of these actions on others.
The Police have a thankless task, it must take some balls to approach a suspect with little more than a metal stick and some pepper spray, remember beat Police aren’t armed but are generally the first responders, and as a reward for putting themselves in a possible life threatening situation every aspect of their conduct and procedure is scrutinised by high ranking officers who are little more than politicians in uniform, the quote ‘loins led by donkeys' comes to mind