21-11-2013, 04:06 PM
(21-11-2013, 12:49 PM)C.A.R. Wrote:(21-11-2013, 11:16 AM)4WayDiablo Wrote: at car says above is very biased. He is very much a diesel hater tbh
That's not fair! I'm not a diesel hater, I just enjoy driving. You can go fast in a diesel but you'll always have more fun in a petrol.
I have owned a couple of diesel cars but have driven many more. I can see their place in society, frugal, easy to drive and often cheap to insure.
However, a petrol is vastly simpler, easier to find fault with and easier to live with. It's quieter, economy remains the same throughout the year (with a diesel you'll see MPG drop-off in the colder months) power delivery is smoother and linear and this all adds up to a more enjoyable driving experience. If money were no object and we weren't forced into running a derv, nobody would have one. Don't believe the fallacy that the popularity of modern diesel cars is due to their better performance, cos it isn't. We are a nation of cheapskates, living in an economy which is always getting more expensive on wages which have been frozen for many over the last 5 years. Don't kid yourself that you wouldn't be in a nice, petrol-powered hot-hatch or coupe if it wasn't for the state of our economy.
I'm not a 'diesel hater' if such a thing exists, they have their time and place, and right now is their time, but if you can afford to run a petrol or want a 'fun' car, then a petrol equivalent makes more sense. The 1.8 is a bad example because for it's performance it's not that great on fuel, but believe me they're more fun to rag down a country road - even if it is slightly slower. Outright speed in a straight line is not the be-all and end-all...
Epic troll C.A.R., epic troll. Sounds like it has been copied and pasted straight from the PistonHead's bible. Just the right amount of snobbery to be convincing, without letting people know for sure that you are on the windup
Couple of points:
There are two main types of diesel:
DI and IDI
And I fail to see how a petrol with complex electronics is simpler than an IDI diesel with a mechanical pump that just needs fuel and air once it's started.
Secondly, there are some people who prefer the hands on nature of a tuneable lump, which the XUD certainly is. Petrols cost a lot of money to tune at all. And when you do it is via means of bolt on kits etc.
You are talking in a more general sense than a comparison between a 306 1.8 and 1.9DT which complicates things a little so I will just leave it at that
