30-12-2012, 01:52 AM
I wasn't going to bother getting in on this but Tom - you really haven't got a clue.
If you want a new car the best thing you can do Is get a personal loan from your bank over 5 yrs and go in to the dealers with cash and play them off against each other. Any money you save put it aside for servicing and bills etc but try and get servicing thrown in for nothing then get everything you can out of them and just before you sign say I'm going to have to think about it make them sweat.
They're working on one of two principles and that's volume and bonus or commission - ask them they'll probably tell you.
The only time not to get a bank loan is when the dealer is offering 0% finace over 3 yrs and your old car as deposit -provided you can afford the payments that's a no brainier.
New cars break down whether they've been abused or not - Fact! I've driven over 8,000 vehicles new and old over a 10 yr period for lease companies finance companies dealerships auctions and private individuals averaging 75,000miles a year and I've broken down less than a mile from the dealers a mile from the delivery address and everywhere in between.
The penalties for exceeding mileage allowances start at 15p per mile depending on who you lease from, then there is what is considered fair wear and tear on the vehicle.
The worst company to lease hire from are D_____r C______r B__z who will sodomise you so badly you'll regret it for the rest of your life over what is acceptable fair wear and tear.
Their own trained technicians inspect the cars after we take them back to storage and they plug them in and see if they've been clocked and how may keys should be with the vehicle etc - poor repairs are charged back to the customer also. anyone that refuses to pay usually finds themselves in small claims court - though I will say most people pay up as DCB are very intimidating. Even heard of a barrister that could not practise because he had been issued with a court writ because of a dispute with DCB.
Most reliable brand I've ever driven? Honda. So much so my ex wife and I bought a 99T plate accord with under 7k on the clock and we put 140k on that in 8 yrs she still had the car when we split and divorced and I can say that it never ever ever once let us down. It was my wife's daily driver and I ragged it at weekends
afaik she still has that car.
I have driven cars so dirty you wouldn't put pigs in them, they were ex motability cars. I remember one that it took me a whole pack of baby wipes to clean the steering wheel the indicators handbrake gear stick any switches I needed to touch and I still wore a pair of disposable gloves oh yeah and the drivers seat base was falling apart where they had pissed themselves so much the ammonia was attacking the fabric - it had already took the pattern out of it. 3 newspapers and 2 bin liners all windows open and it was pissing down with rain when I was driving that car. You still think a bit of stale cigarette smoke is bad???
ps - you can now get odour purifying 'bombs' that you put in your car and leave - ask a pro car valeter.
If you want a new car the best thing you can do Is get a personal loan from your bank over 5 yrs and go in to the dealers with cash and play them off against each other. Any money you save put it aside for servicing and bills etc but try and get servicing thrown in for nothing then get everything you can out of them and just before you sign say I'm going to have to think about it make them sweat.
They're working on one of two principles and that's volume and bonus or commission - ask them they'll probably tell you.
The only time not to get a bank loan is when the dealer is offering 0% finace over 3 yrs and your old car as deposit -provided you can afford the payments that's a no brainier.
New cars break down whether they've been abused or not - Fact! I've driven over 8,000 vehicles new and old over a 10 yr period for lease companies finance companies dealerships auctions and private individuals averaging 75,000miles a year and I've broken down less than a mile from the dealers a mile from the delivery address and everywhere in between.
The penalties for exceeding mileage allowances start at 15p per mile depending on who you lease from, then there is what is considered fair wear and tear on the vehicle.
The worst company to lease hire from are D_____r C______r B__z who will sodomise you so badly you'll regret it for the rest of your life over what is acceptable fair wear and tear.
Their own trained technicians inspect the cars after we take them back to storage and they plug them in and see if they've been clocked and how may keys should be with the vehicle etc - poor repairs are charged back to the customer also. anyone that refuses to pay usually finds themselves in small claims court - though I will say most people pay up as DCB are very intimidating. Even heard of a barrister that could not practise because he had been issued with a court writ because of a dispute with DCB.
Most reliable brand I've ever driven? Honda. So much so my ex wife and I bought a 99T plate accord with under 7k on the clock and we put 140k on that in 8 yrs she still had the car when we split and divorced and I can say that it never ever ever once let us down. It was my wife's daily driver and I ragged it at weekends
afaik she still has that car.I have driven cars so dirty you wouldn't put pigs in them, they were ex motability cars. I remember one that it took me a whole pack of baby wipes to clean the steering wheel the indicators handbrake gear stick any switches I needed to touch and I still wore a pair of disposable gloves oh yeah and the drivers seat base was falling apart where they had pissed themselves so much the ammonia was attacking the fabric - it had already took the pattern out of it. 3 newspapers and 2 bin liners all windows open and it was pissing down with rain when I was driving that car. You still think a bit of stale cigarette smoke is bad???
ps - you can now get odour purifying 'bombs' that you put in your car and leave - ask a pro car valeter.