(29-12-2012, 07:20 PM)SRowell Wrote: Er... im pretty sure a clutch will just go! Could be for any reason and it will always eventually go due to general use no matter how hard you abuse it.
I think for us tom it does seem like a good deal (ignoring the mileage) however we are both young so we would never get a car as good as our estates for that price. Dont tell me about how crap yours is now. Its shiny as feck and be glad that the front end of it doesnt resemble the big dipper (rollercoaster) like mine does! Once we are old enough then the deal doesnt seem as good because our insurance will be cheaper!
Also with any of these deals because you dont own the car you cant modify it at all. And lets be honest thats what most of us are on this forum for, modifying and fixing etc. Nobody would put as much effort into the upkeep of a car they didnt own!
In 9 months theres gotta be something wrong for a clutch to 'go'!!
Either it was burned out (user abuse) or a spring fell out/release bearing failed (faulty part), and as said, within 9 months you're under warranty so don't have to pay for it.
As good as our estates? Seriously Sam? Mines scratched to f*ck, dented all over, ruined inside, missing various fixings and falling apart as they all are around 10+ years old. I'd have a new car any day (as long as someone else paid the purchase price lol!), theres only one thing 'good' about my estate, and thats the load space. If I didn't need load space, I certainly wouldn't be driving it.
Infact, if I moved into town (so no ridiculous boring b road trip every day) and wasn't shifting shit about I'd buy a fairly new small petrol as they are so cheap and much better on mpg these days. The idea of a 1.4 only having 75bhp and barely averaging 45mpg has long gone!! That Peugeot deal would even work then as the milage wouldn't matter, not that I want a new pug anyway lol, would rather go citroen if I was staying PSA, Grandads top spec C3 Picasso was awesome tbh, just a shame it was missing the pedal on the left lol.
And not modifying would be the best idea ever tbh, look at every car I've owned, either I've broken them due to modding or wasted money on mods that you don't get back. Dunno why its taken me so long to realise that. Plus the only exterior mods I do are 'GTi' mods anyway, so just a buy a GTi spec car to start with lol. Hence I'm looking for something new enough to be cheap to run and tax and not need modding at all, PD150 Golf or similar. And before anyone says 'havent I learnt my lesson with Golfs?'....the answer is, why the f*ck didnt I learn from 306s!?
Also, I put more effort into your estate than I have mine!
So just cos you don't own it doesn't mean you won't look after it.All that said, I did turn down a fairly new car which i was offered when my Grandad died - but it was a tiny pov spec Hyundai I10 with the wrong engine (crap mpg for what it was) - anything better and slightly higher specced I'd have had it. Wish I'd had the i10 now though, and traded it in for something better like my Mum did instead, ah well, learn from mistakes I guess...or not.
(29-12-2012, 07:35 PM)Niall Wrote: Tom it went because the master cylinder shat it self. And yes it was covered under warranty but that wasnt my point. The point was, it was a 9 month old car with quite a serious failure. And tom no offence but i do a substantial amount more driving than you do. I dont just drive around the local town so i do see alot more than you do.
The good thing about getting a maintenance contract with a lease company is you dont have to worry about it breaking down because you cant just go out and buy a new car your self and say it wont break down because its just as likely to as a 10 year old car. Downside obviously being that you dont own the car after 3 years but if youve got the money and dont mind having to choose a new car every 3 years and have worry free motoring, i think its a good idea. There really is no benefits to owning a car unless you really cant afford a lease contract.
I assume you mean slave cylinder, so it was a faulty part then, and as you say replaced under warranty. If you go out and buy a 306 tomorow then the clutch fails you've gotta pay like half the cars value to get it replaced at a garage!!
I agree you do a lot more miles, but we probably spend a similar amount of time in the car though, I'm in the car several hours each day and contrary to forum rumours don't just drive round Ipswich lol.
I dont agree that a new car is just as likely to break down as a 10 year old one though. Metal fatigue and perished rubber and electrics are probably the major cause of most breakdowns, and those take a while to happen. Really the only thing that can cause a breakdown on a brand new car is a faulty part from the factory which will be under warranty anyway.
Turbos, DMFs, cams, headgaskets, wiring faults, knackered beams, rust, clutches, CV joints, ball joints etc are all very likely to fail on an older car resulting in a breakdown (trust me on that!) than a newer one.
And i know people will say it doesn't matter becuase they're cheap and easy to fix, but the fact is they really arent! Everythings so siezed in it either won't come off or just shears giving you even bigger problems, and as forbeing cheap, again they aren't - say a CV boot rips as they do when they get old - you've gotta replace the gearbox oil, the hub nut and usually the gearbox oil seal as well with taking the shaft out - so that very quickly gets fairly expansive and time consuming! Especially if the shaft is so siezed in that you have to replace the damn hub as well - I'll never buy another 106 after that experience!