27-07-2012, 07:02 AM
Yes the Renault was the first hot hatch, however, I think my point more was, the VW was what made the GTi popular... Not necessarily the first...
There were MP3 players before the iPod, the iPod was what popularised it...
You think of a GTi, you generally think Golf GTi..
Also, could never put the Defender in there... They get away with making things shit by claiming it makes them good off road and more reliable, which is total bullshit... You can make a vehicle good offroad by giving it a proper driving position, a decent seat, proper insulation etc... Not making doors that fall off their hinges and leak like a sieve and just claim it makes the vehicle better off road... Land Rover have been milking it since 1948 as an excuse to build shit vehicles...
There's just Land Rover purists out there that claim it makes them a better off road vehicle by simple engineering, when there's an engine out of a Ford Mondeo up front with a DPF and all the shit that goes with - so all the parts you want to be simple are complex, yet the doors still leak, the only room for your elbow is out the window, the doors still fall off their hinges, they still have chronic road noise, wind noise, whistles... They just can't be arsed to make a new off roader that's any good...
There were MP3 players before the iPod, the iPod was what popularised it...
You think of a GTi, you generally think Golf GTi..
Also, could never put the Defender in there... They get away with making things shit by claiming it makes them good off road and more reliable, which is total bullshit... You can make a vehicle good offroad by giving it a proper driving position, a decent seat, proper insulation etc... Not making doors that fall off their hinges and leak like a sieve and just claim it makes the vehicle better off road... Land Rover have been milking it since 1948 as an excuse to build shit vehicles...
There's just Land Rover purists out there that claim it makes them a better off road vehicle by simple engineering, when there's an engine out of a Ford Mondeo up front with a DPF and all the shit that goes with - so all the parts you want to be simple are complex, yet the doors still leak, the only room for your elbow is out the window, the doors still fall off their hinges, they still have chronic road noise, wind noise, whistles... They just can't be arsed to make a new off roader that's any good...
