Stuck on my next choise of car :/

[Ed Doe]

Forgive me for being dumb here but whats better about an s16 compared to a '6 or a Wallye?

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Also my input. EP3 CTR. Sorted

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'


But several carlengths behind a gti6.


The end

[Kimmie]

'OOOOOOOWWWW

Sound like anyone?

[Ed Doe]

Fair point ruan but I want to get out of the french side of cars and explore with jap as I cant stand german as there really really boring and I want to staty doing track days to.... but I dont want to finish on the dt and want an s16/gti6 bit for the sake price for the bits for a 306 for what I want you can gain more with a gt4 :/

Also, forgive me if I've misinterpreted this, but if you're looking to get out of the french scene, why on earth are you considering a gti6/s16, or indeed any other french car.


And for my tuppence worth, ep3s are wet on the limit, and only very slightly quicker than a '6 anyway; there are better ways to spend £4k imo....

[cwspellowe]

Forgive me for being dumb here but whats better about an s16 compared to a '6 or a Wallye?

---

Also my input. EP3 CTR. Sorted

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'


But several carlengths behind a gti6.


The end

*unless it's Ed's GTI6, in which case it's

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'

VS

Blahblahblah 'sounds more tappy 'feels shorter on one side' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my camber adjustable top mounts' blahblahblah 'bloody invisible BMW'

Several car lengths behind a bicycle

The end

[Kimmie]

Repped!

[cwspellowe]

Oh Ed, you do leave yourself open to it...

[Ed Doe]

Forgive me for being dumb here but whats better about an s16 compared to a '6 or a Wallye?

---

Also my input. EP3 CTR. Sorted

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'


But several carlengths behind a gti6.


The end

*unless it's Ed's GTI6, in which case it's

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'

VS

Blahblahblah 'sounds more tappy 'feels shorter on one side' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my camber adjustable top mounts' blahblahblah 'bloody invisible BMW'

Several car lengths behind a bicycle

The end

Least it's not

Blahblahblah 'my headgasket' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died'.............................................................

[cwspellowe]

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'


But several carlengths behind a gti6.


The end

*unless it's Ed's GTI6, in which case it's

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'

VS

Blahblahblah 'sounds more tappy 'feels shorter on one side' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my camber adjustable top mounts' blahblahblah 'bloody invisible BMW'

Several car lengths behind a bicycle

The end

Least it's not

Blahblahblah 'my headgasket' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died'.............................................................

Need a cuddle Ed?

[Ed Doe]

*unless it's Ed's GTI6, in which case it's

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'

VS

Blahblahblah 'sounds more tappy 'feels shorter on one side' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my camber adjustable top mounts' blahblahblah 'bloody invisible BMW'

Several car lengths behind a bicycle

The end

Least it's not

Blahblahblah 'my headgasket' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died' blahblahblah 'new turbo died'.............................................................

Need a cuddle Ed?

No I'm fine over here sulking

[cwspellowe]

No I'm fine over here sulking

[Jonny b]

[/quote]

Blahblahblah 'sounds more oldschool' blahblahblah 'feels more raw' blahblahblah 'OOOOOOOWWWW my avac system' blahblahblah 'faster limiter noise'


But several carlengths behind a gti6.


The end
[/quote]


Ha ha ha Jelousy's a cruel mistress

[Ed Doe]

Ha ha ha AVAC's a cruel mistress

Edited there for you Jonny

[cwspellowe]

Edited there for you Jonny

Pfft Ed on a powertrip again.

I say strip him of his title, give it to me, and watch the place burn

[sam]

Just getting peoples views plus if I didnt want a gt4 id go for an s14a, ep3 ctr I shocking slow as f*ck and boring all noise and no go

[Jonny b]

Ha ha ha AVAC's a cruel mistress

Edited there for you Jonny

Ha ha how many threads of mine can you find where my car is broken or don't feel right?

How many of yours?

[Ed Doe]

Ha ha how many threads of mine can you find where my car is broken or don't feel right?

How many of yours?

Miaow Miaow, mere technicalities

[Kimmie]

Ha ha ha AVAC's a cruel mistress

Edited there for you Jonny

Ha ha how many threads of mine can you find where my car is broken or don't feel right?

How many of yours?

Not sure if that's the car or just Ed though....

[C.A.R.]

A GT4 is a massively capable car, but the maintenance costs are pretty excessive and because of that you will struggle to find an example which has been 'well looked after' or "properly looked after".

Bulletproof reliability but it's very much a car I'd want as a track / rally slag. I wouldn't want the risk associated with running it as my only car every day! And they do like to drink too.

If you get an old 306 then you pay peanuts but get much of the same level of enjoyment at a much lower (and safer?) pace. This all comes without the absurd servicing costs, you can run a 306 on a shoestring (like most of us do).

A 306 doesn't compare IMO to a WRC slag, but it will be much less hassle in the long run.

[Ruan]

Of course the bottom end went bang - it's a 3S-GTE...

Eh?! These engines can run 300bhp no problem. Apparently, upwards of 400bhp is possible on standard bottom end with an aftermarket ecu/proper tuning. I would imagine neglect and pleb tuning is what causes the blown engines.. Unless there is something in particular I am missing?

They have severe issues with bottom end bearings... 3S-GTEs have a horrible reputation for if you bring them on boost ONCE when it's like 2*C below operating temperature you'll spin a bearing... You bring it on boost ONCE when it's 2*C above operating temperature... It'll spin a bearing...

You have ONE dodgy batch of fuel and it has a REALLY light det - Spins a bearing...

They are also the only engine I've ever seen blow thick black smoke on boost to keep it cool... They're a GOOD engine, but just there's a few quirks that make it quite tempremental... They're no Cosworth YB or Saab B series put it that way...