Pressed plates....Legality / Source question...

[1616six]

I love how people think HID'S are illegal.

[Piggy]

I love how people think HID'S are illegal.

Ok, so if you have 306 lenses which are designed for HIDs, auto height adjusters and lense sprays then its legal...

but I dont know yet of any company producing lense for the 306 designed for HIDs.

[bigcheez2k3]

So the long and short of it, is no steel presed plate is "legal" in the UK?

Craigsplates say they are, but there by the book and require v5 and ID to be posted...I really dont like the idea of that...posting v5's around is a pisstake at the best of times...

Found the one I got mine from http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/webshop/uk-l...al-plates/

As said in my earlier post, I went to one of their dealers with my documents so they couldn't get lost in the post.

[1616six]

I love how people think HID'S are illegal.

Ok, so if you have 306 lenses which are designed for HIDs, auto height adjusters and lense sprays then its legal...

but I dont know yet of any company producing lense for the 306 designed for HIDs.

No-one defined a specific model.

[Piggy]

I love how people think HID'S are illegal.

Ok, so if you have 306 lenses which are designed for HIDs, auto height adjusters and lense sprays then its legal...

but I dont know yet of any company producing lense for the 306 designed for HIDs.

No-one defined a specific model.

fair enough...but as this is 306oc I assumed

[Niall]

I love how people think HID'S are illegal.

Ok, so if you have 306 lenses which are designed for HIDs, auto height adjusters and lense sprays then its legal...

but I dont know yet of any company producing lense for the 306 designed for HIDs.

Yes and No. Although your car would have all the bits to technically make it legal, it would never have been type approved with HIDs so technically would be illegal.

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I love how people think HID'S are illegal.

They are in a car that was never designed for them. Of course they aren't in a car that came with them from factory otherwise they would never of been let into the country lol

[Piggy]

Yes and No. Although your car would have all the bits to technically make it legal, it would never have been type approved with HIDs so technically would be illegal.

what DOES that mean though?

[Niall]

Yes and No. Although your car would have all the bits to technically make it legal, it would never have been type approved with HIDs so technically would be illegal.

what DOES that mean though?

Type approval is basically a massive test a new model of car has to go through and pass before its allowed on sale in the UK. They check all sorts of things from emissions to lumens given out by lights, beam patterns, safety features to mention but a few! Once a model has passed type approval, it can be sold in the uk.
If you wanted to get around it for what ever reason though, you would just buy a car in another country and import it although the only real effected difference would be things like light patterns

[Piggy]

ahhhhhh.

I bow to such wisdom

[Niall]

I wouldn't. Its just called not having a life. Oh and spending my childhood weekends in a dealership with my old man lol.

[1616six]

They are in a car that was never designed for them.

Really?

So if I fit HIDS, self levellers and headlamp washers to my vectra it's illegal as they never left the factory with HIDS?

[Niall]

They are in a car that was never designed for them.

Really?

So if I fit HIDS, self levellers and headlamp washers to my vectra it's illegal as they never left the factory with HIDS?

As i said above, technically yes. Although you have fitted all the parts to make them legal, they still never passed type approval with them so technically, yes they are illegal.

Also, im interested to see where you get a aftermarket HID kit with levellers. And I'm pretty sure washers aren't needed any more

[1616six]

I suppose people do assume the law and MOT are the same.

To be honest I only use HIDS as the yellow halogen bulbs look terrible on my car, combining with the fact I have projector headlights so the 6000k HIDS look white and modern, rather than blinding people like people who fit them to non projector & frosted style lenses.

I could get self levellers by retro fitting AFL running gear but tbh they passed the MOT like it and don't blind so I couldn't care less, old bill up & down the country have seen them too

[Niall]

Yeah the MOT test should pick up on aftermarket HIDs but we all know that some testers are lenient and also, parts of the test are testers opinion or discretion.

[kentiiboii]

These are mine got them from a vw show, never had a problem with them and they passed mot in Jan.

[RetroPug]

They are in a car that was never designed for them.

Really?

So if I fit HIDS, self levellers and headlamp washers to my vectra it's illegal as they never left the factory with HIDS?

As i said above, technically yes. Although you have fitted all the parts to make them legal, they still never passed type approval with them so technically, yes they are illegal.

Also, im interested to see where you get a aftermarket HID kit with levellers. And I'm pretty sure washers aren't needed any more

If something has an E marking on it it has been type approved I believe?
What if the components used to make the kit are all type-approved, E-marked and approved etc.? Surely this would make it a legal modification, otherwise every modification no matter big or small would be illegal...

[Niall]

Really?

So if I fit HIDS, self levellers and headlamp washers to my vectra it's illegal as they never left the factory with HIDS?

As i said above, technically yes. Although you have fitted all the parts to make them legal, they still never passed type approval with them so technically, yes they are illegal.

Also, im interested to see where you get a aftermarket HID kit with levellers. And I'm pretty sure washers aren't needed any more

If something has an E marking on it it has been type approved I believe?
What if the components used to make the kit are all type-approved, E-marked and approved etc.? Surely this would make it a legal modification, otherwise every modification no matter big or small would be illegal...

Err not sure if I'm honest but if that is correct, bear in mind how easy is it for a company to just print that logo on the box? Bear in mind most of the HID kits these guys use are the cheap Chinese ones, we all know them guys don't give a f*ck about ripping off logos, patents, brands, markings etc.

[Dum-Dum]

Kent yours are illegal, you can't have the F sticker.

[kentiiboii]

Kent yours are illegal, you can't have the F sticker.

They went through mot no problem so never thought anything of it Cheers for letting me know :-)

[RetroPug]

Err not sure if I'm honest but if that is correct, bear in mind how easy is it for a company to just print that logo on the box? Bear in mind most of the HID kits these guys use are the cheap Chinese ones, we all know them guys don't give a f*ck about ripping off logos, patents, brands, markings etc.

Oh yeah agreed!
I've seen plenty of 'street legal' blue sidelights and LED washer jets etc.

I suppose that's where buying from a reputable brand comes in.

[1616six]

Mine were from Amazon, they do have all the markings but they are pretty much covered by the plate surrounds in this pic

[Piggy]

Kent yours are illegal, you can't have the F sticker.

They went through mot no problem so never thought anything of it Cheers for letting me know :-)

I wouldnt worry about the MOT...

Its the cops and their big ass fines you wana worry about

[Tom]

Im pretty sure it only has to be visible and clear for the mot. Its the police that get fussy about who made them and all the jazz. Personally down here in the depths of Cornwall i cant see it being an issue. As in i see a traffic car once a month if that and most of the time they dont even bat an eyelid at the 205.