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Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
Android torque and this?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=271135568286&index=1&nav=WATCHING&nid=87906468197
Anyone heard/played with one before? Worth it or better off getting a proper one?
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - cwspellowe - 10-01-2013
Is your phase 5.3 GTi6 OBDII?
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Scott - 10-01-2013
Your phone doesn't generate much torque, if any.
/trollface
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - strictly_perv - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 08:38 PM)Scott Wrote: Your phone doesn't generate much torque, if any.
/trollface
More than a '6 though
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
I'm a newb at this diagnostic shit pellowe, is it an obdll I'm after?
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - cwspellowe - 10-01-2013
GTi6's never supported OBDII fella. They use an older diagnostic system that PP2000 works with but wasn't universally compliant like OBDII. Annoying, I think multiplex Xsara VTS's WERE OBDII compliant...
So no, you don't want one of those. Well you probably do, but it won't work very well.
I should have kept my mouth shut and giggled at the "where does this plug in?" thread
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
Yes it will work. Depsite the fact that they wernt officially OBD2 compliant, the later ones do work with OBD2 readers.
Is it worth it? Not at all. The phone apps give bugger all read outs (even the high spec ones) and will basically just give you the readings you have on the dials in front of you and fault codes (but remember not all faults generate a code so bit useless really without sensor values)
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - cwspellowe - 10-01-2013
Ahh I forgot Ed's was a phase 7
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - 4WayDiablo - 10-01-2013
My mate with the hdi has what looks to be the exact same one in the picture and has paid the £5 or however much it was form the full app version
It gives many readouts like the scanguage actual mpg average mpg speed and so on
Even gives a readout of boost on his as well as a few others. I'll ask him when I next see him and get you a lil list of things that give a readout on his
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - cwspellowe - 10-01-2013
I thought the HDi's were officially OBDII compliant though, hence the ability to remap using the OBD port, and why the Magnetti Marelli 1AP ECU on the GTi6 had to be mapped with emulators and not "on the fly"?
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - 4WayDiablo - 10-01-2013
Ah whatever! Lol I'll shut up then
Just thought they may have been the same
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:05 PM)4WayDiablo Wrote: Not entirely true niall
My mate with the hdi has what looks to be the exact same one in the picture and has paid the £5 or however much it was form the full app version
It gives many readouts like the scanguage actual mpg average mpg speed and so on
Even gives a readout of boost on his as well as a few others. I'll ask him when I next see him and get you a lil list of things that give a readout on his
Thats mainly a feature of the software its self and the fact the HDi ecu is more OBD compliant (although not fully)
Considering you dont own a 6, i fail to see how you can tell me its not true what readings you get with these cheap obd readers when ive used them my self on my own 6.
If you had a HDi, you may get a boost reading and mpg but thats about it extra.
pellowe, HDis are not officially OBD compliant although being a much more modern ECU than the 6, its more workable!
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
So in short I can't monitor lambda voltage, Tps voltage, map sensor pressure, or anything worthwhile monitoring?
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:17 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: So in short I can't monitor lambda voltage, Tps voltage, map sensor pressure, or anything worthwhile monitoring?
No. Basically you just need a mate who is a f*cking top lad to lend you his PP in exchange for at least a cup of tea or two!
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Toms306 - 10-01-2013
How can a HDi ECU give you a boost reading? Theres no boost/pressure sensor is there? Also........how does it read mpg, if the HDi ECU could do mpg readouts then surely they could've built an mpg reader into the dash?
Diesels didn't have to be fully OBD copliant until 2004, theres a lot of things you cant do on a HDi that you can with a newer car, even with a decent scan tool.
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:20 PM)Toms306 Wrote: How can a HDi ECU give you a boost reading? Theres no boost/pressure sensor is there? Also........how does it read mpg, if the HDi ECU could do mpg readouts then surely they could've built an mpg reader into the dash?
Diesels didn't have to be fully OBD copliant until 2004, theres a lot of things you cant do on a HDi that you can with a newer car, even with a decent scan tool.
I wasnt even sure if they did do boost. that was just what 4waydildo said.
Any 306 ecu theoretically can work out mpg considering all it needs to know is distance covered and the amount of fuel/injector timings but a lot of cars back then didnt have them anyway!
Correct, there is a lot you can do with a fully compliant car but the HDi isnt bad really!
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - 4WayDiablo - 10-01-2013
Thats what I said and thought but it does give a boost reading and seems about right
So just assumed it must have had a sensor or something somewhere
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Toms306 - 10-01-2013
Hmm, there was mpg meters even back on mk2 Golfs........ I guess fuel prices have only been an issue more recently though. Or VAG's just better...
There isn't much you can play with on the HDi tbf, it doesn't really allow many sensor tests and stuff, but it does give a lot of useful readings (MAF, TPS, RPM etc). There were all sorts of odd things you could do on the Golf with a decent scan tool (the snap on one at college) including proper sensor tests, extra info, clocks check (play with needles and warning lights lol)..............no idea what the clock test is for really, but it was fun to play with lol....
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - cwspellowe - 10-01-2013
Tom in another Golf related post shocker
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Toms306 - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:32 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Tom in another Golf related post shocker
Pfft, its a comparative of the two cars OBD capabilities, relevant to the thread.
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
No. It's totally irrelevant seeing as my car is not an Hdi, I don't give a shit about mpg, and I never ever want a comparison against a golf. But thanks for playing.
You shall get many many cups of tea Niall
rest assured!!
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - cwspellowe - 10-01-2013
Pretty sure Golf GTI's were OBDII and you could probably do something with that or something.
Golf.
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Toms306 - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:41 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Pretty sure Golf GTI's were OBDII and you could probably do something with that or something.
Golf.
GTIs? The 115bhp slow heavy shitters? Ewwwww.....
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
Tom, the reason why you could do alot more with the golfs is because they were OBD complaint for the reason that OBD2 was originally a german standard and so a lot of the manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon early.
The HDi ecu you can do a fair bit with with PP2000 but seeing as its not fully obd complaint, you cant do it all from your basic obd reader. But anyway, youve managed to change the subject to golfs again!
Ed, dont bother mate. I know you always think your car is broken and therefore if you like, we can arrange a lease agreement on my PP2000 and accompanying laptop.
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
Hahaha! Read my mind Niall, I was going to just text you asking how much and where you got your pp from, and or if you could give me a copy for some moneys/shinies
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:51 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Hahaha! Read my mind Niall, I was going to just text you asking how much and where you got your pp from, and or if you could give me a copy for some moneys/shinies
We will talk business when i meet you on saturday
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
Do you mix business with pleasure....?
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 09:53 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Do you mix business with pleasure....?
For you?
No not really.
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Ed Doe - 10-01-2013
Sadface
RE: Anyone tried one of these? - Niall - 10-01-2013
(10-01-2013, 10:07 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Sadface
Oh ok, ill make an exception! (if you blow me whilst im driving your car to poodles!)