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pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - pugtk - 27-12-2012
Im just after doing a d turbo conversion into a 205 for my friend everything is fine,except for the gear box
Ive used the d turbo box,which is a push type box,where the old box is a pull type,
how has this been bypassed in the past?, we were just going to try and modify the cable
i remember reading somewhere that the hdi box was a pull type and that its used an the xud alot so how is the connected up
I dont want to use the standard box,as the ratios are way too short
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - Ruan - 27-12-2012
You should just be able to stick on the stock cable, as long as you're using everything that came with the DT engine, you should be fine...
Clutch cable should simply clip ontop of the box...
![[Image: parts-Clutch-Cable-PEUGEOT-205-Box-1-7-D...-parts.jpg]](http://fautoparts.com/design/imagini/parts-Clutch-Cable-PEUGEOT-205-Box-1-7-Diesel-TRW---15-812278-auto-parts.jpg)
Cable should look something like that, if it does, it just clips straight on, it's just the fork is different between boxes
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - pugtk - 27-12-2012
205 stock cable?
I think the standard 205 cable looks like that, but wouldn't that just pull the gearbox arm instead of pushing? or am i missing something?haha
I think i have a 306 cable sitting in my garage from the good old days
If that would fit?
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - Ruan - 27-12-2012
Whoa whoa, you're getting me confused now! I think you've gotten a bit confused.
The HDi90 is a PUSH style clutch, the release bearing is attached to the gearbox fork and pushes on the springs to release...
The XUD9 uses a PULL style clutch, where the release bearing is incorporated into the pressure plate and a fork goes behind it and yanks it...
Imagine that the HDI90 and all the "push" style clutches - the inner cable end is fixed, therefore the sheath of the cable moves and actuates the fork...
In the XUD setup i.e. "pull" style clutches - the sheath end of the cable is fixes, and it moves the inner cable on the pivot...
The difference being when viewed from the top, an XUD clutch will twist the arm anticlockwise, a HDI or Push clutch will turn will twist it clockwise... The clutch cable is the same
Hope this makes sense!
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - pugtk - 27-12-2012
Thanks for the help, i am probably going to add to the confusion here(im still confused here)haha
but this is the type of mechanism on the 205 gbox
http://is02.thegumtree.com/image/big/157817538.jpg
the clutch cable pulls the arm backwards towards the bulkhead on the 205 box
on the 306 box the cable should pull the arm towards the front of the car(towards the slam panel)
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - Daniel306 - 27-12-2012
When i converted mine i used a 1.9 Gti cable
Re: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - aggyj17 - 27-12-2012
What driveshafts have you used? asuming its a 1.8 diesel to start with have you used the 1.8 or 1.9 driveshafts???
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - pugtk - 27-12-2012
1.8 shafts on a 1.9 box
we encountered some other problems this evening,with the smaller selector fork on the box,which was longer than the 1.8 box,which we modified it(bent it)haha
we should by right take the other one of the 1.8 box,but for now it will have to do,
we managed to get use the end of a dt cable on the 205 cable(joined them),after my friend managed to break the 205 cable
so he's ordering a new accelerator cable and a new solenoid(there was a 2 wire solenoid) ,hopefully we will get it finished sat, and get my timing belt done on my 205 gti
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - Daniel306 - 27-12-2012
Mine was a 1.8TD , put a Xud9 in it with a Hdi gearbox. using the original 1.8 driveshalfts
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - pugtk - 27-12-2012
did you have any problems with the gear selectors?
Re: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - aggyj17 - 27-12-2012
cool thats alright then atleast i havent gotta get any driveshafts then
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - Daniel306 - 31-12-2012
I fitted a 306 auto adjust cable today, just need to change the bit that connects to the pedal
RE: pull to push gearbox box(small problem) - pugtk - 31-12-2012
(31-12-2012, 06:07 PM)Daniel306 Wrote: I fitted a 306 auto adjust cable today, just need to change the bit that connects to the pedal
How did you change that?