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So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

1 know the following things:

-Battery aint great
(gauges flashed all full then back to bottom again), but its always turned over/started.

-Possible key/immobiliser issue.
Sometimes it just turns over and doesn't start. Pull the key out, put it in and start again, fires first time (rare, 1 in 10/15 times)

First time up in Cumbria with this car, left it standing for about 48hours in what has most likely been the coldest its ever been since I've had it.

Car turns over ok, but refuses to fire.

I've locked/unlocked the doors, with the remote fob a few times. Turned over a few times but still never fired.

obviously, battery is a little tired now, so i'm tempted for the sake of it to just replace the battery as first point of call.. but since it turns over I figured it would be alright?

Immobiliser issue has turned into a permanent fault... unknown if that's the case, is there any way i can test? All my spare keys are at home.

I do have RAC and I will phone them if required, just don't want them to rock up and tell me something obvious.


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Mattcheese31 - 11-12-2012

my Citroen Dispatch with HDI 90 engine is the same needs jumping all the time when it's quite cold and it's got a 2 year old Bosch battery on as well, turns over but doesn't catch.


So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - vlj - 11-12-2012

If its turning over as normal then I can't imagine the battery is at fault.
I had exactly the same problem with my XSi - it was intermittent but I couldn't seem to find a fix, it was ages ago but if your key is in and you press the button on your steering wheel for 5s doesn't it disable the immo?


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

is that what that does?!?!

I'll give that a press after i've heard other thoughts, since i probably only have about 1 more attempt at starting before i will need a jump, which might not be the easiest given I am no-where to be found


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Ed Doe - 11-12-2012

Should drive the gti6 more Wink


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

(11-12-2012, 12:45 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Should drive the gti6 more Wink

helpful as always ThumbsUp


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Ed Doe - 11-12-2012

(11-12-2012, 12:54 PM)Fooby Wrote:
(11-12-2012, 12:45 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Should drive the gti6 more Wink

helpful as always ThumbsUp

Did you expect any different? Tongue

You tried bumping it?

Did the button you tried a minute ago work in the end or not?

have you double-locked it, then unlocked it?

Have you jiggled the key in the ignition barrel?


So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - vlj - 11-12-2012

(11-12-2012, 01:01 PM)Ed Doe Wrote:
(11-12-2012, 12:54 PM)Fooby Wrote:
(11-12-2012, 12:45 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Should drive the gti6 more Wink

helpful as always ThumbsUp

Did you expect any different? Tongue

You tried bumping it?

Did the button you tried a minute ago work in the end or not?

have you double-locked it, then unlocked it?

Have you jiggled the key in the ignition barrel?

For when you inevitably use the button and it works and you scream with joy like a little girl getting her first horse - you know where da rep button is xx


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

I've double locked it every time as part of my lock/unlock method.

I've not tried the button yet as i only have 1 more attempt then the battery will most likely be flat.

I've not jiggled it no, but i can try that


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Ed Doe - 11-12-2012

Well if your battery is nearly dead I'd start by getting it jumped mate. Sounds a lot like it's not even cranking fast enough to start anyway...


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - darrenjlobb - 11-12-2012

Shitty ecu probs not coming up with starting amps being raped from a naff battery, try bumping it / put set of leads on it and see if it will start...dont you carry a can of ether? Wink


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

that makes more sense darren!!

I'll buy a new battery me thinks. I'll get a jump. Thanks for your help and fyc ed Big Grin


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Jonny81191 - 11-12-2012

Are you stuck in Cumbria mate?

I'll come and tow it to mine, I'm sure we can get it fixed, if not at least it gives you a secure place to leave it for a week or so if needs must..


Re: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

Na I'm good. Mate,.Darren you were.right battery voltage. I'm going to halfrauds now.for a battery. What one do I want?


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - samass - 11-12-2012

couple of D cells.


Re: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - darrenjlobb - 11-12-2012

Just get most cranking amps u can, making sure battery will fit in the box


Re: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

610 Bosch cranking amps it is.

/bends over


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Mr Whippy - 11-12-2012

It's a long shot, but maybe it's the Racoon Filter?


Re: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

127 quid later...


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Scott - 11-12-2012

lmao can't believe it too that long to be suggested! Well played though the haha

Adam I hope you have a trade card??


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Kimmie - 11-12-2012

Also, didn't you buy a battery for it the day after the Ace meet, when we all went to Watford?!


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Toms306 - 11-12-2012

(11-12-2012, 02:01 PM)Fooby Wrote: 127 quid later...

How much!? Confused

I got a Bosch silver 5 year warranty for my HDi for like £50 after a bit of discount. You shoulda gone to ECP lol.

That one - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Peugeot_306_2.0_2000/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/electrical/car-battery/?444770278&1&aa67f1c7188b4a36f7d349dc908afd3df48ac965&000020


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

yeah, it was a bosch silver one, no trade car for me. Just bum rapeage.

I knew the battery was cack but i figured as long as i could crank it, it would start.

Think its time to sack of this EUC, piece of. MHDi pwease Darren? Big Grin

Thanks again for the offer of help Johnny Smile


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Matt - 11-12-2012

Glad it's sorted. I would hve just proceeded to lol at you, because at some point, you would have fallen over


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

nearly fking did!!


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Matt - 11-12-2012

Haha must be chaos for you this time of year. All this ice and the incabability of actually staying upright


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Ed Doe - 11-12-2012

In breaking news..... Fooby fits something to his car. On his own. With no adult to hold his hand.


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Fooby - 11-12-2012

(11-12-2012, 03:13 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: In breaking news..... Fooby fits something to his car. On his own. With no adult to hold his hand.


wrong,

i had to pay the man, i had no tools to disconnect the battery box!!!


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - Jonny81191 - 11-12-2012

Why the hell were driving a 306 without tools?

It's like the 11th commandment "if thou owns an automobile of the peugeot 306 variety, thou must carry the equipment required to remove all of it's component parts"


RE: So... the inevitable 'HDi won't start' thread... - darrenjlobb - 11-12-2012

For the reference, if you had mtdi'ed it and put the shitty ecu in the bin, it would have started easily Tongue as long as the cuss will motor, it will fire Wink