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3 Wheel Bolts - londondan86 - 11-01-2012
Ok just got my nimrods/ouragans (not sure which, came of a 406 estate) on and one of the bolt holes in my fron hub has finally let go, nothing left. I knew it was on the way and Ive got a pair of hubs with new bearings waiting to go on.
My question, how long can I safely drive like this, Ive got the MOT on monday so can change them over at the weekend as I need the car for college all week. I was thinking just re torque up the 3 that are on it every night.
Any input welcome, thanks
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Dan! - 11-01-2012
3 will be fine. I wouldnt even worry about it, although you could check them every journey just to be on the safe side.
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Connor - 11-01-2012
3 is more than enough
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Moonstone2.0 - 11-01-2012
I would stick to slow speeds and gentle in the corners just in case, that's a lot of pressure on the weak side of the wheel
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Dan! - 11-01-2012
Heck, I have 5 bolts as standard and you guys only have 4! And some saxos/106's only came with 3 stud hubs!
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - londondan86 - 11-01-2012
Cheers for the replies, 3 it is then but Ill just drive it steady to be safe, just a PITA as I didn't really want to be changing hubs at the moment as Ive got no space, all jobs are being done on the side of a busy road.
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - D@wson - 11-01-2012
londondan86 Wrote:Cheers for the replies, 3 it is then but Ill just drive it steady to be safe, just a PITA as I didn't really want to be changing hubs at the moment as Ive got no space, all jobs are being done on the side of a busy road.
Three is fine and yeah tell me about it. I do all of my work at the side of a busy road.
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - 1616six - 11-01-2012
have driven 30 miles on 2 studs before,
3 studs is plenty, would happily drive permanently with 3 studs on a 4 stud hub!
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Curt - 11-01-2012
Quite surprised at the responses in this thread to be honest... Although it should be fine for short journeys etc, definitely get it changed as soon as you can. Yes some cars do come with more bolts than others. But for instance povo Saxos etc obviously have the triangular stud pattern to spread the load. Plus the fact they have top speed of about 23. With a 4 stud with one missing, one side of the wheel is affectively unsupported, for lack of a better word. It may, therefore, be more inclined to loosen the other 3.
All I'm saying is, really, although it will most likely be okay for a short period... err on the side of caution :thumbup:
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - D@wson - 11-01-2012
Curt Wrote:Plus the fact they have top speed of about 23.:
Just spat my brew all over...
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - lh_4827 - 11-01-2012
ive been driving on 3 studs since just after the last MOt.. in march lol.. never caused me an issue, wheel never come loose, ive been on road rallies, done 120mph on a private road and done 20k.. never came loose, or showed any sign of coming loose
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - ginge191 - 11-01-2012
2 is over rated..
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - lh_4827 - 12-01-2012
actually.. you can see the one missing in my sig.. that photo was taken june i think
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - mark_airey - 12-01-2012
Curt Wrote:Quite surprised at the responses in this thread to be honest... Although it should be fine for short journeys etc, definitely get it changed as soon as you can. Yes some cars do come with more bolts than others. But for instance povo Saxos etc obviously have the triangular stud pattern to spread the load. Plus the fact they have top speed of about 23. With a 4 stud with one missing, one side of the wheel is affectively unsupported, for lack of a better word. It may, therefore, be more inclined to loosen the other 3.
All I'm saying is, really, although it will most likely be okay for a short period... err on the side of caution :thumbup:
100% this ^^
and
at the saxo top speed!
3 Wheel Bolts - Matt - 12-01-2012
Again agree with curt. I ran 3 bolts on my old hdi, hit a pot hole caused one of the bolts to snap, it was one next to the missing one, an with 14 miles to get home it was horrible, every minute stopping and tightening them up. Nearly lost the lot.
So not worth running for a long time, it's not safe and it's just luck if you manage to run them for a while, so get that Hub changed ASAP!
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Scott - 12-01-2012
f*ck wheel bolts, I don't run any.
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Matty - 12-01-2012
Scott Wrote:fornicate wheel bolts, I don't run any.
lulwut. O_o
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Gunge - 12-01-2012
3 is fine as far as safety goes IMO but consider the fact that each wheel hole needs a bolt/nut to pass an MOT for it to be deemed road worthy technically you could get points for it, as it is a defect that PC plod could make to seem worse than it is
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - londondan86 - 12-01-2012
Gunge Wrote:3 is fine as far as safety goes IMO but consider the fact that each wheel hole needs a bolt/nut to pass an MOT for it to be deemed road worthy technically you could get points for it, as it is a defect that PC plod could make to seem worse than it is
Valid point that! Ill stick to the plan then and run till the weekend. Cheers lads
3 Wheel Bolts - Jonny b - 12-01-2012
Don't forget that the wheel is balanced!!! A wheel bolt weighs a lot so running without one effects it a lot
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - D@wson - 13-01-2012
Jonny b Wrote:Don't forget that the wheel is balanced!!! A wheel bolt weighs a lot so running without one effects it a lot
When I balance wheels I don't use bolts just chock the center cap hole on the machine and away I go.. doubt the weight of a bolt will have any effect
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - mark_airey - 13-01-2012
D@wson Wrote:Jonny b Wrote:Don't forget that the wheel is balanced!!! A wheel bolt weighs a lot so running without one effects it a lot
When I balance wheels I don't use bolts just chock the center cap hole on the machine and away I go.. doubt the weight of a bolt will have any effect
no you don't balance them with the bolts, obviously, what he is saying is that the wheel is balanced, the bolts are the same, one bolt missing will throw the rotating assembly out of balance as there is a good amount of weight missing due to the missing bolt from one hole!
3 Wheel Bolts - Jonny b - 13-01-2012
Exactly mark^^^
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - 4WayDiablo - 13-01-2012
basically i think its alright for a short time but they have 4 bolt holes designed for a reason lol
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Scott - 13-01-2012
Matthew Wrote:Scott Wrote:fornicate wheel bolts, I don't run any.
lulwut. O_o
Everyone was trying to get one up by saying they'd driven with less, just thought I'd get to the point a little earlier...
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - lh_4827 - 13-01-2012
ive got the bolt extractors here, i just dont have the inclination to go out there at the minute, it's too pissing cold lol
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Dave - 16-01-2012
I drove down to cornwall on 2 wheelbolts, both on same side too, and ruan was belting it around quite abit. We're stupid, but it held.
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Hitchos - 16-01-2012
I had a Renault Megane with just 3 studs holding the wheel on no problems what so ever will be fine just make sure the others are tightend with a torque wrench there will be no probs then
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Hitchos - 16-01-2012
Dan! Wrote:Heck, I have 5 bolts as standard and you guys only have 4! And some saxos/106's only came with 3 stud hubs!
yeah my little citreon ax was only 3 studded
Re: 3 Wheel Bolts - Curt - 16-01-2012
I think you're all mad
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