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Running like shit need help changed everything now with video first post - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Fitted bosh pump and its running like shit
Came off my old running car.
It's white smoking everywhere Doesn't want to idle. Checked timing and its spot on any ideas? It's baffled me.
Right, checked the pulley and key it's fine
Got a different set of Bosch injectors in
Standard Bosch pump has been put on still got anti tamper caps on.
Still running like shit video below
http://http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e174/austinmini-2008/22876465-E26E-440A-A547-D2FC0E68C92B-263-0000001286A20ED9.mp4
RE: Running like shit need help - Ricky - 18-11-2012
Did you replace a Lucas? Thinking maybe you didn't move the studs.
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Used the Bosch bracket pal
RE: Running like shit need help - Ricky - 18-11-2012
O ok, that's me out of ideas!
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Cheers mate I'm stumped too
RE: Running like shit need help - Jackabeen - 18-11-2012
Advance on the pump?
RE: Running like shit need help - vincent1 - 18-11-2012
bosch or lucas injectors?
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Everything Is Bosch took them off my old car and put onto new
Tried adjusting pump but still smokes
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Anyone got any ideas?
RE: Running like shit need help - Tom - 18-11-2012
Anything to do with the timing piston in the pump? How long was the pump not used for? Could of seized up?
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Bout a month it's been sat mate
RE: Running like shit need help - Tom - 18-11-2012
Well im not expert but i know that the internals like to rust up if there not full of diesel.. Im sure someone with more knowledge can confirm or deny soon!
RE: Running like shit need help - Dum-Dum - 18-11-2012
What colour smoke and what does the smoke smell like?
Is it using any oil or water?
RE: Running like shit need help - Jonny81191 - 18-11-2012
Does the smoke clear when it's up to temp?
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
It always smoked white when cold but cleared up when it was warm, but it won't run since I put the pump on its pouring white out and smells bit like derv
RE: Running like shit need help - Jonny81191 - 18-11-2012
dicky injectors? i assume you're using the bosch ones?
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Yea using Bosch ones, don't understand it, was running fine on the other car it's all come off the old car pump bracket lines and injectors.
Would the lines being on wrong cause this?
Just thought because there not joined together in pairs there all loose....
RE: Running like shit need help - Ricky - 18-11-2012
It would cause problems but it would be pretty difficult to get them on wrong without bending them.
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Think there slightly bent anyway, only thing I can think of!
Lines on wrong so it's injecting derv when It shouldn't be so not being burnt hence the white smoke and stinking of derv and running crap only thing I can think?
RE: Running like shit need help - Ricky - 18-11-2012
Get a picture of your lines up
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
I'll post one up when I get home give me half a hour cheers pal
RE: Running like shit need help - vincent1 - 18-11-2012
just been reading a few threads about this each time its been the timing out i would lock the crank of and recheck it again.
Re: Running like shit need help - Dan! - 18-11-2012
Certainly sounds timing related. Make sure when you retime it up to check it that the locking bolts you use on the cam and more importantly the pump, screw right in, like 10+ turns. Also, might be worth checking the woodruff key, and slot for it on the pump shaft and pulley, just to make sure they aren't warped/mangled slightly, which would let the timing shift slightly.
May also be worth removing the front advance cap and checking the piston hasn't seized/locked over the last few weeks.
I assume by adjusting it and making no difference that you mean you've adjusted it on the slots/static advance? If not, obviously try that first.
And with regards to injectors, it is possible, depending on how you've stored them, that you've clogged or snapped a nozzle and it's running shitty because of that. Could check that by undoing the union nut on each injector individually and seeing if it improves, bearing in mind that it'll obviously run on 3 cylinders but the smoke should clear up at least and show which injector is at fault.
RE: Running like shit need help - RePT - 18-11-2012
Ahh, Im fitting a bosch soon.
Hate reading threads like this, I always think of the worst.
hope you sort it out bud =]!
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
The Bosch pulley is slighly mangled where the woodruff key goes on but didnt think it would be a issue? It slotted on fine recon this could be it?
Rept I've done 3 now and they have all been fine it's just there isn't something right this time, get it bolted on dont worry it will be fine
Re: Running like shit need help - Dan! - 18-11-2012
Certainly could make a difference, just .5mm of play on the woodruff could mean 1 tooth out effectively on the belt...
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 18-11-2012
Really! Yea it's pretty mangled I got a spare pump so may be worth swapping the pulley and see what happens what you think?
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 19-11-2012
Changed the woodruff key and pulley and it runs better but still white smoke, idles really lumpy, it dies down to 500 rpm and revs itself back up to 900 rpm and then cuts out after a minute or so of that happening.
If I take it over 3k it seems to be ok smoke clears up a little.
Re: Running like shit need help - Dan! - 19-11-2012
Got the fuel lines on the right way round, one off the filter to the left of the pump and one off the right of the pump down the back of the engine?
Also, have you removed the cold idle spring if you gov modded it?
RE: Running like shit need help - Danny2009 - 19-11-2012
Yea there on the pump as you describe.
It's been goved but the pump was fine on the previous car
When you hold the revs it sounds like its hunting/missing and the engine shakes