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enigne swap or tune current - 7057sam - 13-11-2012
Hi guys
I've be thinking for a wait to save abit of money (£500-£1000) and either
-v6 engine +5 speed box(£500 ish if not abit cheaper)
-tune my 6 lump (which as already got new cultch,rick w flywheel,new oil,filters)
with some p81 cames (circa £400)obvously the cams would have to be mapped(£250ish).
My thinking is a v6 would defo be epic,with plenty of toque(lack of engine mods abit from induction and i have heard of dp doing a turbo kit for them).Also i don t really now anyhting about them ie want ecu to use,engine mounts aswell looks a fecking pig to fit would do the cultch whlist the engines out.i do now they pull wel and have bags of torque.would be to a good if not better for track car?or would the extra weight and power be more of a hinderance?
any advice/ideas ?
thanks sam
RE: enigne swap or tune current - samass - 13-11-2012
for a track car, tune the '6 lump. the v6 will be shockingly heavy up front, which will kill the handling. plus i've heard that while they have a bit of torque, they arent a fun engine to drive. quite lazy.
RE: enigne swap or tune current - spike2002 - 13-11-2012
406 v6? if so you will want the earlyer type engine unless you are going to run a aftermarket ecu as the later more powerfull engine is multiplex wireing
RE: enigne swap or tune current - Oil-burner - 13-11-2012
What about a 406 2.0t?
RE: enigne swap or tune current - 7057sam - 13-11-2012
(13-11-2012, 11:20 PM)Oil-burner Wrote: What about a 406 2.0t?
Yeah I thought about that to anyone on here run one ?
RE: enigne swap or tune current - Scott - 13-11-2012
I know the 2.0 turbo conversion is done a fair amount with 205s...
The V6 engine is quite lazy, and as said you'd need to get the earlier version which wasn't multiplexed. It's 198bhp if I remember correctly so it's a lot of work for not a lot more power.
RE: enigne swap or tune current - samass - 13-11-2012
And remember, an engine conversion always costs more than you first estimate
RE: enigne swap or tune current - 7057sam - 13-11-2012
Ok, thanks guys I found out I can get 193 bhp from p81's and chip wiard remap so if you take into account my exhaust and viper plus the flywheel fingers crossed for 200 bhp with boring out the inlet and throttle bodie
RE: enigne swap or tune current - stevieg - 14-11-2012
i got a 2.0t engine at work, just no turbo on it
RE: enigne swap or tune current - 7057sam - 14-11-2012
v6
http://youtu.be/tn3aMLRDGPI
low boost(could'nt find a standard lw video)
http://youtu.be/gKhgDFCswYE
RE: enigne swap or tune current - C.A.R. - 14-11-2012
Low boost is over-done now and they aren't rocket-ship fast for the potential headaches you could let yourself in for.
They are quick don't get me wrong - I'd have one tomorrow - but only as a second car. Jamma on here is turbocharging a GTi6, something which I find far more interesting than the S/C route and it would be very track-friendly too with the right tune. For out-and-out track work nothing really beats a stripped, caged GTi6 running cams and TB's though, should see you nudging 200bhp at the fly....
RE: enigne swap or tune current - Matt - 14-11-2012
JP isn't turbocharging. He's going s/c route now.
Sam tune your current engine, some lairy cams decent bodies and a remap. Running with your exhaust etc you will be looking at a decent power gain
RE: enigne swap or tune current - Midnightclub - 14-11-2012
In the way of handling.. the V6 engine is actually lighter than a 6' engine...
RE: enigne swap or tune current - C.A.R. - 14-11-2012
(14-11-2012, 10:51 AM)Midnightclub Wrote: In the way of handling.. the V6 engine is actually lighter than a 6' engine...
I thought it was the physical size and position of the engine in the car once fitted which was more of an issue? As it hangs over the front axle...
RE: enigne swap or tune current - Midnightclub - 14-11-2012
Physical size would be pretty irrelevant but the weight and position/angle would, i guess it would depend how it's fitted in the bay
RE: enigne swap or tune current - Tom - 14-11-2012
Go v6. Sounds cool. End of.