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Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
HOW THE HELL?
Do people get the buggers out!
I had a go at lowering the back last weekend, couldn't get the bars to come out. What methods do people use?
RE: Torsion Bars. - Niall - 26-09-2012
Slide hammer or a bolt through a big socket. give it loads of penetrating spray and keep doing it for a week or so
RE: Torsion Bars. - Curt - 26-09-2012
Slide hammer, socket, bolt, nut and washer method... Which seems to be the most affective. Kris and others use a strengthened version of this which seems to work very well.
I tried the pulling into a socket method, with high tensile bolts... Kept stripping the threads as mine were so seized too
RE: Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
I tried the socket method, stripped a heat treated manifold bolt, bent some high tensile threaded bar, stripped the thread from a nut, yelled at the thing and tried again.
Is it easier with the beam off the car? As I have some thicker TB's and solid mounts on the way....
RE: Torsion Bars. - Curt - 26-09-2012
They're supposedly easier off the car, never attempted it myself
RE: Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
I guess we'll see.
Not looking forwards to trying my mate's phase 2..
RE: Torsion Bars. - Curt - 26-09-2012
Well it can't be any worse than my phase 1, take some comfort in that
RE: Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
Oh I do.....
RE: Torsion Bars. - zx_volcane - 26-09-2012
I literally broke a sledge hammer trying to get mine out.
Dropped the beam in the end and hit it a lot with another sledge - not fun at all.
Had spent a good couple of weeks fannying about with slide hammers and penetrating oils beforehand.
Good luck!
RE: Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
FFS it's only done 48k!
RE: Torsion Bars. - Curt - 26-09-2012
The other method I've heard is to cut the end of a scrap torsion bar, and hit it from the other side rather than pull...
RE: Torsion Bars. - zx_volcane - 26-09-2012
can't hit it from other side as it has end caps and a bolt thing through it
RE: Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
I was gonna say that.. Or do the end caps come off?
RE: Torsion Bars. - THE_Liam - 26-09-2012
MASSIVE F*CKING HAMMERS!!!
RE: Torsion Bars. - Jonny81191 - 26-09-2012
Tried that, broke stuff, shouted.
RE: Torsion Bars. - THE_Liam - 26-09-2012
Really? F*ck me, if massive hammers don't work anymore how are we supposed to do anything on cars?!?!
RE: Torsion Bars. - zx_volcane - 26-09-2012
You can buy new studs/bolts and end caps from peugeot - mine took about 3/4 months to come (id given up and they arrived in the post one day)
so in theory if all else fails you can hit the torsion bars from that end and through the end caps and replace caps and those bolts (they screw in)
Replace the seals whilst you're at it, they're not that expensive and more readily available from pug.
RE: Torsion Bars. - Curt - 26-09-2012
Yes but I assumed they came of. Like I said, not something I'd done, something I'd read...
RE: Torsion Bars. - c.gerrard - 26-09-2012
That was a depressing day, must have sat around for at least 4 hours wondering WHY THE F*CK IS THIS NOT WORKING?!?!?!? haha
RE: Torsion Bars. - samass - 26-09-2012
fire. fire fixes everything.
especially 'personal disputes'
RE: Torsion Bars. - PUGMON - 05-10-2012
Fire goes down well, bar with bearings and seals, doesent go down with either of them.....
Spent a good 9 hours with screwdrivers, chisels and bars doing a mates phase 1... was a funky chicken dance about moment....
RE: Torsion Bars. - Mike - 05-10-2012
(26-09-2012, 07:05 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote: Tried that, broke stuff, shouted.HAHHAHAHA!!!! Acctually made me LOL.
reminds me of when me an pugmon did mine
(05-10-2012, 08:18 AM)PUGMON Wrote: Spent a good 9 hours with screwdrivers, chisels and bars doing a mates phase 1... was a funky chicken dance about moment....Lmao!!! That was an awfull 9 hours!!
Claw hammer win though!! haah
RE: Torsion Bars. - kernow_joe - 05-10-2012
I've been lubing mine up for a few weeks hopefully its not too bad, I have plenty of hammers so should be fine, only 16 year old 150k car should be fine right?!
RE: Torsion Bars. - PUGMON - 05-10-2012
(05-10-2012, 12:08 PM)kernow_joe Wrote: I've been lubing mine up for a few weeks hopefully its not too bad
ORLY
RE: Torsion Bars. - Just Sean - 05-10-2012
Kris b mad mine look easy! think he lowered my beam start - finish including multiple t breaks in 45 mins!!
RE: Torsion Bars. - kernow_joe - 05-10-2012
(05-10-2012, 12:24 PM)PUGMON Wrote:(05-10-2012, 12:08 PM)kernow_joe Wrote: I've been lubing mine up for a few weeks hopefully its not too bad
ORLY
also been treating my beam with lots of wd40 and gt85 action
RE: Torsion Bars. - the milkman - 06-10-2012
(26-09-2012, 07:04 PM)THE_Liam Wrote: MASSIVE F*CKING HAMMERS!!!
+1
RE: Torsion Bars. - maz-306-xs - 11-10-2012
Took 6 hours to do the front coillies and rear beam
although my cars on 47k. one beam came out like a slippery dildo but the other wasnt going anywhere!! We noticed that the actual arm was sliding off with with the other end of the torsion bar so simply moved the arm out until the other end of the bar popped out then rotated and replaced.easy!
RE: Torsion Bars. - PUGMON - 11-10-2012
-__- Jelous.... Not got the issue with a mates new car, we're swopping the beam from his old car to the new one, the new ones abit rewssssty so saves the agro of the innevitable
RE: Torsion Bars. - Ruan - 11-10-2012
Off the car is a f*cking nightmare... I ended up pulling the bolt through the eccentric washer by attaching the other end to a post in the ground and sledge hammering it... It's just a total pig to do..
The only *easy* way to do it is to use a hydraulic bearing puller, that's the only way I removed mine, but you can only get them out of one side doing it like that, so you have only 3 options, OEM, 10mm lower or on the floor... Heat and hammers are the only way... Slide hammers you may as well not even bother with, every time I just break the slide hammer...