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BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Dan! - 29-06-2012

Il be updating this with plenty of extra info/numbers probably tomorrow, but for now here are todays photos and a quick write up of whats going on.

Firstly, got hold of a govenor cradle and assembly from a transit Bosch VE (the same one needed for an 11mm head conversion) and removed the assmebly from the cradle and took it all apart. This is the setup straight out of the pump:

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DSC_6435 by Daan!, on Flickr

Then got the 306 setup, which looks like this:

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DSC_6447 by Daan!, on Flickr

And removed the assembly from that too, so I could show/compare the difference between the two easier (Transit cradle has 2 shaft seals and a longer throw on the pivot arm):

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DSC_6442 by Daan!, on Flickr

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DSC_6439 by Daan!, on Flickr

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DSC_6438 by Daan!, on Flickr

Then I used the main long spring from the Transit assembly in place of the normal 306 spring. Because its longer it doesnt need shimming/will be stiffer just on its own.

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DSC_6449 by Daan!, on Flickr

Got Hannah to compress it all and fit the circlip because I still dont have much strength in my hands, and this is the final product:

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DSC_6455 by Daan!, on Flickr

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DSC_6452 by Daan!, on Flickr

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DSC_6456 by Daan!, on Flickr


Should be going in mr Toxic's car soon as his birthday present lol


Thanks, Dan.

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - londondan86 - 29-06-2012

Another great write up Dan but in the wrong place. Lol

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Mattcheese31 - 29-06-2012

have many people done this that u know of Dan? What's the benefits, bit more linier progression than than shimming it? Smile

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - kernow_joe - 29-06-2012

if the transit ones the one with 2 seals you've rebuilt the wrong one Smile

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - strictly_perv - 29-06-2012

I know what I'll be finding with some deep pockets on the next scrappy trip Angel

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - mark_airey - 29-06-2012

(29-06-2012, 09:28 PM)kernow_joe Wrote: if the transit ones the one with 2 seals you've rebuilt the wrong one Smile

That is because he has used the transit shaft & carrier to get the extra movement provided by the longer arm on the pivot Wink

Do keep up Tongue

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Dan! - 29-06-2012

Yeah probably should have made that a bit clearer, there are 2 mods going on here. The 306 cradle being replaced by the transit cradle for more travel and the transit spring going in the 306 assembly as a more oem and efficient version of a normal gov mod.

Re: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - kernow_joe - 29-06-2012

But the transit shaft is assembled not just the arm, can see why you'd fit arm for the travel but will the shaft itself fit?

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - zx_volcane - 29-06-2012

When I did this mod, I assumed I wouldn't get more travel, but would get the same travel quicker. I.e. like a quick shift for the accelerator.

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Dan! - 30-06-2012

Joe, the shafts are identical other than the extra seal Smile and tom, the way I work it out in my head is that it works sort if like a quick shift as you say but also sits further back at idle and further forward at max throttle....

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - 4WayDiablo - 30-06-2012

Brilliant write up dan and some cracking... pictures

How (at the time of writing) you have only 1 rep is beyond me... more on its way

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Matt - 30-06-2012

FLOL at those pics, why is Hannah trying to lick it haha

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Dan! - 30-06-2012

Cheers Phil, I was owed loads but never got any because the the rep system wasn't working Sad lol.

And Matt, its because gov mods are sexy and she was happy that she managed to put it back together Tongue

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - jammapic - 01-07-2012

This is what I run in my pump. Gives a decent idle, while still being able to run loads of fuel at full throttle.

I messed with a couple of different Gov setups before settling on this one...

JP

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Dan! - 01-07-2012

Shares in transit Bosch pumps just went through the roof.

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - cwspellowe - 01-07-2012

I found four Transit pumps at my local scrappies but they didn't have the magic 414 in the part number, at least not that I could see. Same LDA cap as the pumps used in the 11mm guides but didn't check anything internally. Might now though, just for information's sake

RE: BOSCH VE GUIDE - Transit govenor cradle - Dave - 01-07-2012

This wont give any more or less fuel over the stock one just to point out, throughout its entire movement, the stock ones hardly move as it is before the levers are from min to max.