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Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 30-05-2012
The clutch on the ZX is worn.
You have to grind it and yank it into reverse and the car judders a bit when pulling off in first, is this likely to be the cable, clutch itself or?
Pretty much the only issue I have with it (as far as I can see) atm!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Ruan - 30-05-2012
Clutch cable, bushes and pressure plate.
Change all of these, it'll be like new.
Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - THE_Liam - 30-05-2012
Also, I once changed a clutch on an XUD to cure juddering, turned out it was a knackered engine mount causing it...
*facepalm*
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 30-05-2012
Ruan Wrote:Clutch cable, bushes and pressure plate.
Change all of these, it'll be like new.
Any guides anywhere? Will have a flick through my haynes later to hopefully get some idea.
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - londondan86 - 30-05-2012
Could well be the self adjuster on the cable so change that first, if not then its new cluch time
Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Jtrigga - 30-05-2012
Could be the gear linkage for the reverse and engine mount for the juddering.
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Dicky - 03-06-2012
Sounds to me like you've warn the pressure plate
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - daddyfixit - 04-06-2012
silverzx Wrote:The clutch on the ZX is worn.
You have to grind it and yank it into reverse and the car judders a bit when pulling off in first, is this likely to be the cable, clutch itself or?
Pretty much the only issue I have with it (as far as I can see) atm!
you answered the question in your question; the clutch is worn.
Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 04-06-2012
daddyfixit Wrote:silverzx Wrote:The clutch on the ZX is worn.
You have to grind it and yank it into reverse and the car judders a bit when pulling off in first, is this likely to be the cable, clutch itself or?
Pretty much the only issue I have with it (as far as I can see) atm!
you answered the question in your question; the clutch is worn.
Thanks for contributing nothing to my thread (gtfo lol).
What gearbox oil do these take or is it universal? Never done gbox oil / service before so sorry if it's obvious!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Dicky - 04-06-2012
Quote:Thanks for contributing nothing to my thread (gtfo lol).Any ATF is fine
What gearbox oil do these take or is it universal? Never done gbox oil / service before so sorry if it's obvious!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - cwspellowe - 04-06-2012
ATF? No no no.
Pug/Citroën boxes seem very sensitive to gearbox oil, always use genuine pug/cit stuff when you can
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Ruan - 04-06-2012
They don't like 75w/80 which is normal for most trannies, they only really like the 75w/90 stuff... And they are normally picky and prefer the Peugeot Total BV stuff, they do make less noise and feel so much better.
Don't use Red ATF or whatever, it'll f*ck the synchros... I know this!
My gearbox is destroyed after using engine oil in it after only about 6000 miles lol, sounds horrific, synchros graunch like hell..
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Dicky - 04-06-2012
Ruan Wrote:They don't like 75w/80 which is normal for most trannies, they only really like the 75w/90 stuff... And they are normally picky and prefer the Peugeot Total BV stuff, they do make less noise and feel so much better.Ooops.. I used red ATF when I changed my clutch :oops:
Don't use Red ATF or whatever, it'll f*ck the synchros... I know this!
My gearbox is destroyed after using engine oil in it after only about 6000 miles lol, sounds horrific, synchros graunch like hell..
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - daddyfixit - 05-06-2012
Dicky Wrote:Quote:Thanks for contributing nothing to my thread (gtfo lol).Any ATF is fine
What gearbox oil do these take or is it universal? Never done gbox oil / service before so sorry if it's obvious!
older vauxhalls used to use atf...... psa like to use smelly, expensive stuff to make you realise how good a job your washing machine does when it kills the smell off your clothes when washed !!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 06-06-2012
Genuine Peugeot oil is not an option so I'm guessing the next best thing would be some 75w/90 of some variation. If Mills don't happen to stock this is 75W/85 ok?
Cheers guys!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - darrenjlobb - 06-06-2012
Genuine pug oil is normally cheaper than the aftermarket stuff..so why wouldnt it be an option?
I just bought 2 liters last week....cost bugger all
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Rippthrough - 06-06-2012
^^What he said.
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 07-06-2012
Ok in that case I'll get it from them, only reason I didn't want to is because I get super savings at Mills with my account.
75w/90 it is from Peugeot then.
On the subject, can anyone explain how to access or the best way to renew the gear box oil? Do I need to remove the battery for access? Cheers!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Dicky - 07-06-2012
silverzx Wrote:Ok in that case I'll get it from them, only reason I didn't want to is because I get super savings at Mills with my account.Yeah, its under the battery tray
75w/90 it is from Peugeot then.
On the subject, can anyone explain how to access or the best way to renew the gear box oil? Do I need to remove the battery for access? Cheers!
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - tsotd - 07-06-2012
you can do it from the drain hole on the side
![[Image: Peugeot-406-HDi2.0-90BHP-BE4-Gearbox-Gea...l-plug.png]](http://www.bluepoolinternet.com/externally-linked-images/cars/peugeot-406/Peugeot-406-HDi2.0-90BHP-BE4-Gearbox-Gear-Oil-Filler-Level-plug.png)
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - Dave - 08-06-2012
Fill it from the top tbh, so much easier, theres a little plastic plug, undo that with 17mm, and just poke the oil straight in there...
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 08-06-2012
Yeah, I'll just take the battery box out, may aswell make it easy on myself.
The drain is nice and obvious underneath I'm guessing too?
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - samass - 08-06-2012
yep, its usually the one covered in g/b oil
but if you have a leak free plug, its the big round one, about the size of a 50p with a square hole in it. 8mm if memory serves. same as the metal bar thing in door handles/knobs
Re: Super heavy & juddering clutch, reverse hard to engage. - silverzx - 09-06-2012
Ended up with some Castrol 75w/90 like this:
![[Image: CAS-trans%20axle%2075w90.jpg]](http://www.rgracing-oils.co.uk/images/Castrol%20Products/Trans/CAS-trans%20axle%2075w90.jpg)
Peugeot didn't have any in stock!