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205- Notchy, sticky steering - strictly_perv - 29-05-2012
My cars recently developed notchy steering and doesn't centre when turning right.
I jacked it up and checked all the suspension units and they seems fine but the steering was still stiff. It makes a grinding sort of noise when turning the wheel from the column. It's horrible to drive ATM.
Is it the steering column/ universal joint or is it the rack?
Also would like to mention the rack was PAS but has been converted to manual.
Had a quick look at it today by jacking up one side at a time as the jack won't go high enough for an axle stand. Removed the track rods and turned the hub and it seemed to move freely each side. So it must be steering related. The UJ's have a slight knoch when wiggling the wheel and also noticed when I gave the tie rod gaitor area a tug it seemed to have play/slight knock sound.
Please note this is for a 205 not a 306 :!:
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - Toms306 - 29-05-2012
No idea, but my 106 is the same, won't centre itself nnd also worse right turning, , I assumed this is just a non-pas thing though? :? No fluid pressure to push the steering straight.....but I take it this is actualy something broken then lol? It tracked fine on the supertracker though.... :think:
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - strictly_perv - 29-05-2012
Yep tracks fine, handles fine, just doesn't self centre and very nothy. Was fine before so yeah somethings broken on yours.
205- Notchy, sticky steering - THE_Liam - 29-05-2012
PAS or not it shouldn't behave like that - My guess is the drive pinion on the steering rack is f*cked
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - strictly_perv - 29-05-2012
No it's bloody horrible and dangerous to drive!
It's starting to narrow down to the UJ between the column and rack.
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - Toms306 - 29-05-2012
Oh well, just another thing to add to list of broken bits on mine lol. Just means I can't indicate indicate on roundabouts cos the steering takes too much effort lol...I did wonder if all non pas cars were this hard to steer lol. :oops:
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - THE_Liam - 29-05-2012
Once your moving, non-PAS should feel no heavier than PAS, it's only really for parking...
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - Toms306 - 30-05-2012
Not heavier, harder! I always seem to be fighting the steering wheel.....either on corners round town with it getting stuck on lock, or at speed its all over the place cos its too light, really can't win this car lol...damn not having progressive power steering on this! :problem:
Barely touch the wheel on the golf and it follows the road fine, it just fits in the lorry ruts in the road I guess......I can't take both hands even slightly off in the nad though.....it would end up I ditch instantly lol.
205- Notchy, sticky steering - THE_Liam - 30-05-2012
I shouldn't really have to tell you this but that's not right. I wouldn't even drive that...
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - Toms306 - 30-05-2012
Well with the awful steering and the awful brakes it makes for some interesting situations. :think: :?
Dw though, I'll just trade it in for the next car I think, don't think id feel ok selling it to anyone tbh lol.
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - strictly_perv - 30-05-2012
That pulling thing is natural on non-pas car due to the castor angles, non-as have negative caster, set-up abit like a shopping trolley so it's easier to turn. But something else sounds f*cked on yours making it worse.
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - Rippthrough - 30-05-2012
Shouldn't be anything like that, they still have castor, just less of it compared to PAS model to make the steering lighter, the rack is a lot slower too so it should be a piece of piss to drive, shouldn't pull at you, something is f*cked.
Check the top mount bearings and the lower balljoints, and also the UJ between the steering column and the rack.
Re: 205- Notchy, sticky steering - Ruan - 30-05-2012
Whoa....
Have you got the big turbo on yet?
Sure it's not fouling the rack - had that problem before on a 306 - dunno whether you'd manage to foul it on a 205 though, I've never really looked!
205- Notchy, sticky steering - THE_Liam - 30-05-2012
Whoa whoa whoa Ruan, don't tell people to fit turbos, you know pugs blow head gaskets every 3 weeks
