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HDi sluggish starting - Piggy - 30-11-2017
Mrs Piggys 206 2.0HDi
Cold mornings, really sluggish to start. Turns over like a battery on its last legs.
Once started and running for a minute or so, it will start on the key.
Battery is a Bosch and only about a year old.
With a battery boosted pack on, no difference.
When it does fire up, cloud of exhaust fumes. A few coughs.
Also, climate control has reset itself and airbag light on. (Airbag light resets itself after the next time engine is off/on)
Not had time to get at the car properly, Mrs piggy using it and me busy...
Anyone had similar?!
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Eeyore - 30-11-2017
Are you able to try a different battery? If the battery is properly dying a booster may not help.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - bashbarnard - 30-11-2017
try a diffrent battery as rowell says but i have had issues with sluggish stsarter motors being slow or bad earths. I would check battery then if its not that (which i doubt being you) swap the starter motor from the LEmoan its the same and see if it makes a difffrence. If you need a starter give me a shout ill post you one i have about 6. Just cover postage as its you. Also its unlikly to be glowplugs on these. Ive never really had an issue with the 2.0lts and glow plugs. I didnt even run any once through winter and it started on the button, obviouly being DI theyre a bit better.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Piggy - 30-11-2017
Yeah it's not glowies I don't think...just not spinning fast enough.
My first inclination is starter as it had made funny noises earlier in the year...maybe drawing loads of amps.
Will check earth's too if I get a moment
(30-11-2017, 09:17 AM)Eeyore Wrote: Are you able to try a different battery? If the battery is properly dying a booster may not help.
Battery has tested fine
This booster will start a car without a battery so would expect it to help anyhow
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Frosty - 03-12-2017
I would say starter motor issue
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Mitch - 04-12-2017
Hdi's are fond of a sluggish starter motor, however the airbag light coming on then resetting suggests a low voltage.. this could be down to the starter drawing lots of amps though, I doubt the 1 year Bosch battery would be at fault.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - welshpug - 04-12-2017
(04-12-2017, 01:04 PM)Mitch Wrote: I doubt the 1 year Bosch battery would be at fault.
I would not discount it, the blue topped bosch silvers don't like a bit of volt drop and cold weather and lazy starters.
not saying its directly at fault but they can suffer a bit.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Mitch - 04-12-2017
(04-12-2017, 01:53 PM)welshpug Wrote:Ahh well in that case then, thinking about it the last two battery's I've replaced of my own have both been blue tops.(04-12-2017, 01:04 PM)Mitch Wrote: I doubt the 1 year Bosch battery would be at fault.
I would not discount it, the blue topped bosch silvers don't like a bit of volt drop and cold weather and lazy starters.
not saying its directly at fault but they can suffer a bit.
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RE: HDi sluggish starting - Poodle - 04-12-2017
I've seen a lot of shit Bosch batteries in recent years. At least try another battery if you've got one.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - C2K - 04-12-2017
I would expect its a lazy starter.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Piggy - 04-12-2017
So despite the battery passing usual tests... Put it on a trickle charger overnight and the thing started much better.
So either;
Duff battery
Power drain
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Poodle - 05-12-2017
Easy test: disconnect it overnight and see if it helps.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Mitch - 05-12-2017
Time for a parasitic battery drain test then.. although I'd still suspect the starter simply from the amount of lazy hdi ones I've replaced.
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RE: HDi sluggish starting - Piggy - 05-12-2017
Started fine today... #facepalm
HDi sluggish starting - DeeTurbo - 06-12-2017
It probably started ok as it's not been as cold.
I've had this the last couple of weeks on my car.
I to thought it was the battery and charged it and found it better after that charge then went the same the next day. I checked the voltage before starting and it was healthy but still turned over slowly.
The symptoms I had were the same. First start of the day slow, the rest ok.
The clocks would do the swiping thing.
I thought I'd take a look at the starter thinking the solenoid was getting gummed up and not moving freely.
I gave it a clean, it didn't look to bad to my surprise. I gave it a very light film of grease.
Next I moved on the earths. I found a layer crap on the crimp ring and mating surface of the lug on the gearbox it bolts to.
I cleaned it all up and now the engine spins over so quickly, it's awesome.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Piggy - 07-12-2017
Earth's are fine. Been checked.
HDi sluggish starting - DeeTurbo - 07-12-2017
Is it a valeo starter motor on yours?
RE: HDi sluggish starting - allye - 14-12-2017
Take it for a proper drop style load test and see what AH it’s actallt is, probably down to 200 or something.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - Eeyore - 15-12-2017
I had a bosch s5 and it lasted less than a year. The silverline range is properly useless especially when it costs so much.
RE: HDi sluggish starting - jamesgmg - 19-12-2017
Bosch s5 here, 3 years old and dying!