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PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 16-05-2012
[i][/i]I seem ti be spending all my bloody time in this section at the mo.
So the other day my dt started knocking over bumps and over the past day its got worse and worse to point where im getting frustrated with it .
So now wen i wiggle the steering left to right it knocks with out fail. And when stationary if you lock it from left to right it clunks just before full lock i can feel it in the top mounts and one of the PAS pipes twitches as it clunks.
But it has got more frequent and loader over the last 20-30 miles.
Is it the Rack thats f*cked ? Just seems odd as its came on so quick as if it was a volt thats worked loose or somthing.
Cheers guys
PAS Rack f*cked????? - vlj - 16-05-2012
I also need an answer for this as I'm experiencing similar problems
Does your steering feel a lot heavier than normal too? Could be me being paranoid
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 16-05-2012
Funny enough the steering feels fine. But i can feel it in the pedals. And the sound is coming.from that area on the other side of the bulk head
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
I would personally say that its either drop links or TRE's, its pretty unlikely to be the rack TBH
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 17-05-2012
Drop links was the first thing i checked as it sounds exactly like a drop link. But it wasnt
And TRE's???
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
puglove Wrote:Drop links was the first thing i checked as it sounds exactly like a drop link. But it wasnt
And TRE's???
How do you know it wasn't, they are more than capable of knocking like hell while appearing totally fine!
TRE = Track Rod End, otherwise known as the bit that connects the steering rack to the hub.................
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - Dave - 17-05-2012
Unlikely but could be a loose subframe aswell... you need to jack it up and just give the wheels a good yank to see if you can feel any play
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - Mattcheese31 - 17-05-2012
most likely drop links, track rod end or even lower balljoints, also get a crowbar in and check your wishbone bushes, P bush more specifically xxx
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 17-05-2012
mark_airey Wrote:puglove Wrote:Drop links was the first thing i checked as it sounds exactly like a drop link. But it wasnt
And TRE's???
How do you know it wasn't, they are more than capable of knocking like hell while appearing totally fine!
TRE = Track Rod End, otherwise known as the bit that connects the steering rack to the hub.................
I know it isnt the drop link because i wedged a bar between the arb and wish bone and gave it a good push down. I then tightened them with the air ratchet and since then its proceeded to get worse so defo not drop links.
Track rod ends were replaced about 4 months ago and done up as tight as pos with the air ratchet again. But defo worth givin it a check over tonight.
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 17-05-2012
Dave Wrote:Unlikely but could be a loose subframe aswell... you need to jack it up and just give the wheels a good yank to see if you can feel any play
Good shout worth a look. Cheers
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 17-05-2012
Mattcheese31 Wrote:most likely drop links, track rod end or even lower balljoints, also get a crowbar in and check your wishbone bushes, P bush more specifically xxx
Cheers will give the wish bones a check over. Think they are the orig ones so cover nearly 80k maywell be the issue
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
Depends what you replaced the TRE's with, 4 months is more than long enough to ruin a cheap set...........
If you wishbones haven't been changed for 80k are you still on the same ball joint?? if you are then chances are it could be those, or if the bolt isn't tight then the hubs could be oval instead of round where they fit meaning the ball joint can move in the hub slightly........
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - cwspellowe - 17-05-2012
Top mounts tbqfhwy. Especially if clunking when turning lock to lock.
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - Chris - 17-05-2012
Top mounts and bearings. Sounds like the bearings are shot and there binding.
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
Chris Wrote:Top mounts and bearings. Sounds like the bearings are shot and there binding.
Binding top mount bearings that knock over bumps...........so how exactly does the binding cause this??
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - cwspellowe - 17-05-2012
If the bearings are f*cked, a jolt can cause them to munch against each other and cause the knock.
I said it first anyway so I want my prize when i'm right
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
cwspellowe Wrote:If the bearings are f*cked, a jolt can cause them to munch against each other and cause the knock.
I said it first anyway so I want my prize when i'm right
I wasn't agueing with you, pipe down
I was just curious how a binding bearing could cause a knock over bumps, worn bearings with loads of slack in them yes, binding ones no, they cause a twang noise going from lock to lock as the top of the spring can't turn /pedanticness
PAS Rack f*cked????? - vlj - 17-05-2012
I don't know if it also feels like really bumpy like you are driving over rough ground at low speeds? (Even on flat ground)
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - Chris - 17-05-2012
Didn't read that bit, just the bit where it knocks when moving the steering.
I've had the knocking from worn ball joints but normaly only when the suspenson becomes unloaded, I.e coming off kurbs etc.
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 17-05-2012
Turns out it was a track rod end was ever so slightly loose. Quick buz with the the impact gun and problem solved
cheers for the help guys
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
Woop......... :clap:
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - puglove - 17-05-2012
Cheers mark
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - mark_airey - 17-05-2012
puglove Wrote:Cheers mark
No worries, its fixed, no more annoying noise
Re: PAS Rack f*cked????? - Mattcheese31 - 18-05-2012
Reppp for everyone . .woohoo . . . .. . . oh .wait . . . .