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RE: So who is a mechanic - bashbarnard - 20-07-2016
(20-07-2016, 03:19 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: I learned f*ck all in college as I only did the lectures between 0900 - 1100 cos the pub opened at 1100 and my mate was knobbing the barmaid so me and another mate got left looking after the bari just have this image of your mate going to the pub and nipping upstairs while youre left with the taps unattended
(20-07-2016, 03:19 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: I learned f*ck all in college as I only did the lectures between 0900 - 1100 cos the pub opened at 1100 and my mate was knobbing the barmaid so me and another mate got left looking after the bari just have this image of your mate going to the pub and nipping upstairs while youre left with the taps unattended
RE: So who is a mechanic - Stef205 - 20-07-2016
I am, NVQ level 4 qualified, Spent all my life in a garage and around cars.
RE: So who is a mechanic - daddyfixit - 20-07-2016
ok I am on holiday today and its too hot to go outside so here we go !!!!
college is there to provide a broad, widespread awareness & knowledge to receptive students.
qualifications can be seen as;
a hurdle to prevent people who are not interested or capable of doing the job---they cant be "taught" as they do not want to be, they will apportion blame on everybody in the universe except themselves......its later on when they realise it was their own fault when they see the rest of the class have completed a qualification.
or as a stepping-stone that can be seen as a badge of honour that shows that an individual student can "be taught" and pass exams, that they can get their heads down and listen/question & discuss what is going on in a college lesson-----------these people want the pieces of paper that show they have levels 1,2 and 3.
most learning will be done in the workplace, we learn by doing the job and by having somebody else explain how or why they are doing the job. very few people learn by reading about a subject, its easier to see/feel components that then back up what they have learnt in college & vice versa.
college qualifications are there so that we can plan a progressive route, added to being in a workshop also being taught--so that people can go as far as level 3 to use at an interview stage, getting into a garage or main dealer that will continue to evaluate/train to give us marque master techs.
the u.k is slowly introducing the prickly subject of technician licensing, already there are previously non-qualified techs attending a 2 day practical assessment course to gain a nationally/internationally recognised qualification.
the plan is for all uk techs to be licensed so that the industry can be regulated so standards are raised.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Dum-Dum - 20-07-2016
(20-07-2016, 05:04 PM)bashbarnard Wrote:(20-07-2016, 03:19 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: I learned f*ck all in college as I only did the lectures between 0900 - 1100 cos the pub opened at 1100 and my mate was knobbing the barmaid so me and another mate got left looking after the bari just have this image of your mate going to the pub and nipping upstairs while youre left with the taps unattended
You wouldn't believe it but that is exactly what happened!
It was incredible at the age of 16 just being in a nearly deserted pub playing pool, smoking and drinking beer all day.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Danny Wideboy - 20-07-2016
Big hand mo's?
RE: So who is a mechanic - Ruan - 21-07-2016
By no means a mechanic, just learnt as I went along.
My training was f*cking stuff up for myself and a good dose of common sense. I'm fairly mechanically minded anyway which helps.
RE: So who is a mechanic - C2K - 21-07-2016
Not a mechanic, but I am a mechanical engineer. Mechanically minded and play with big steam turbines as a daily.
My dad started me off on car maintenance with my first motor then it just snowballed from there really. Spend far too much time fannying around with them!
RE: So who is a mechanic - bashbarnard - 21-07-2016
its seriously impressive the amount of skill floating around on this forum to be honest. which is why i was intrigued abut how many people are actually techs. a lot of stuff i do to my stuff i would never get to do at work either so i learnt a lot on the side.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Rippthrough - 21-07-2016
Self taught. Pick up some spanners and get twirling.
RE: So who is a mechanic - td_dan - 21-07-2016
As above ^^^
Also got my own little lockup now where i advertise for work on weekends and after work for a bit of extra cash
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RE: So who is a mechanic - darrenjlobb - 21-07-2016
Self taught, farmer, so jack of all trades so they say!
RE: So who is a mechanic - RetroPug - 21-07-2016
(21-07-2016, 06:31 PM)C2K Wrote: Not a mechanic, but I am a mechanical engineer.
Same, but I am an automotive engineer.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Blandy - 21-07-2016
Originally a plant mechanic now in ag
RE: So who is a mechanic - Frosty - 22-07-2016
Im a car mechanic, have been ever since i left school. Been at the same garage for 8 years now. Been mot testing for about 3 years now as well i think.
Have to agree what some others have said, college was pretty much a complete waste of time, meets so good friends there though and got the certificates i needed so not all bad i guess.
So who is a mechanic - bashbarnard - 22-07-2016
Ive been a tester for 7 years and in the trade for 10 now. Dont really like moting but it makes you more employable round my way.
RE: So who is a mechanic - zx_volcane - 22-07-2016
(21-07-2016, 07:31 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Self taught. Pick up some spanners and get twirling.
lol at twirling
RE: So who is a mechanic - Dum-Dum - 22-07-2016
(22-07-2016, 11:05 AM)zx_volcane Wrote:(21-07-2016, 07:31 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Self taught. Pick up some spanners and get twirling.
lol at twirling
Now you've made a point of that I have an image of him in a tutu pirouetting like a ballerina with an adjustable spanner in each hand.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Rippthrough - 22-07-2016
Only on Saturdays.
RE: So who is a mechanic - maxaret - 22-07-2016
As Frosty posted - at least doing formal training gives you 'qualifications' which can be helpful LOL
I was an Aircraft Tech for 40+ years but always messed around with cars (1971 - present) and motorbikes (72 - 83) so lots of mechanical experience but I would never classify myself as a 'proper' car mechanic and I am always extremely grateful for the knowledge and experience which is available on various car forums
My last 15 years at work I was involved heavily with on the job training for our apprentices,it was usually a big pleasure helping the youngsters on their way to being qualified (although occasionally we had some problem lads LOL).
At work we had the whole spectrum and mix of skills - some guys were 'naturals',others good at practical work but cr@p at paperwork/documentation,some cr@p at practical work but good on documentation - there is usually a place for all as long as they are upfront about their strengths and weaknesses.
One of my C & G certs is 'Airframe Erection (ooer) and overhaul' which turned up a few months after I finished my RAF Apprenticeship.
Edit to say - if you google 'Maxaret' it is a very early mechanical anti skid system used on Aircraft in the 50's/60's
RE: So who is a mechanic - Poodle - 22-07-2016
(20-07-2016, 05:29 PM)daddyfixit Wrote: ok I am on holiday today and its too hot to go outside so here we go !!!!
college is there to provide a broad, widespread awareness & knowledge to receptive students.
qualifications can be seen as;
a hurdle to prevent people who are not interested or capable of doing the job---they cant be "taught" as they do not want to be, they will apportion blame on everybody in the universe except themselves......its later on when they realise it was their own fault when they see the rest of the class have completed a qualification.
or as a stepping-stone that can be seen as a badge of honour that shows that an individual student can "be taught" and pass exams, that they can get their heads down and listen/question & discuss what is going on in a college lesson-----------these people want the pieces of paper that show they have levels 1,2 and 3.
most learning will be done in the workplace, we learn by doing the job and by having somebody else explain how or why they are doing the job. very few people learn by reading about a subject, its easier to see/feel components that then back up what they have learnt in college & vice versa.
college qualifications are there so that we can plan a progressive route, added to being in a workshop also being taught--so that people can go as far as level 3 to use at an interview stage, getting into a garage or main dealer that will continue to evaluate/train to give us marque master techs.
the u.k is slowly introducing the prickly subject of technician licensing, already there are previously non-qualified techs attending a 2 day practical assessment course to gain a nationally/internationally recognised qualification.
the plan is for all uk techs to be licensed so that the industry can be regulated so standards are raised.
I understand and appreciate the theory behind college courses, the issue typically stems from the execution being a load of shit. Naturally this opinion is only born of my own experience (3 colleges and 6 tutors, out of which only one of the tutors was any good and all the colleges administrators were a joke), but then how else are we supposed to assess these things. My personal opinion is that the mistake is to base a practial qualification on an academic process and an obsession with quantifiable grading, but that's a whole other argument.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Rippthrough - 22-07-2016
College/Uni are only there to teach you how to learn, research and apply knowledge correctly. They give you very little that's actually practically transferable.
I know a lot of welders with certificates coming out of their earholes that make a weld that looks like my dog did it and understand nothing of what they're actually doing to the material under their torch - so they will only weld what they've been spoon fed on the courses to do because they're not interested in the theory.
And I know a lot of 'master tech' marque mechanics that are out of their depth on anything other than a simple swap of parts or tyres - and even then you'd want to check the bolts after...
RE: So who is a mechanic - maxaret - 22-07-2016
(22-07-2016, 02:37 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: College/Uni are only there to teach you how to learn, research and apply knowledge correctly. They give you very little that's actually practically transferable.
Definitely - I worked for British Wasteospace at Dunsfold,Surrey for 16 years and the guys who became the best Fitters/Technicians were generally the youngsters who had been classified as 'Shop Boys' who did some formal academic work but the majority of their 'time' was spent with the Fitters on the 'Shop Floor'.
RE: So who is a mechanic - ADV_93 - 22-07-2016
None of you are mechanics you're all glorified fitters
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RE: So who is a mechanic - Rippthrough - 22-07-2016
Woohoo, I'm glorified, that's a promotion!
RE: So who is a mechanic - ADV_93 - 22-07-2016
Le chiffre
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RE: So who is a mechanic - Rippthrough - 22-07-2016
Do I get a pay rise?
RE: So who is a mechanic - Frosty - 22-07-2016
(22-07-2016, 11:01 AM)bashbarnard Wrote: Ive been a tester for 7 years and in the trade for 10 now. Dont really like moting but it makes you more employable round my way.
Yeah defo, when i first started doing mots i was a bit worried but soon get into the swing of it.
RE: So who is a mechanic - Stef205 - 22-07-2016
(22-07-2016, 06:27 AM)Frosty Wrote: Im a car mechanic, have been ever since i left school. Been at the same garage for 8 years now. Been mot testing for about 3 years now as well i think.
Have to agree what some others have said, college was pretty much a complete waste of time, meets so good friends there though and got the certificates i needed so not all bad i guess.
my college was brilliant we learnt how to install nitrous and how much a honda b series engine can take
FYI 150 shot before the rod poked its nose haha.
RE: So who is a mechanic - bashbarnard - 22-07-2016
(22-07-2016, 05:35 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: None of you are mechanics you're all glorified fitters
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what..........
RE: So who is a mechanic - Poodle - 23-07-2016
(22-07-2016, 08:48 PM)bashbarnard Wrote:(22-07-2016, 05:35 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: None of you are mechanics you're all glorified fitters
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what..........
Ignore him, he's just some tool that likes to stir and thinks he's the shit.