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Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 30-05-2016
Mate has a 1.6 rusted old focus...
Wants derv and bit more modern.
There is a Saab 93 1.9tdi local. 120k miles. 8mth mot.
Had within last two months all brakes, tyres, belts and a service.
Guy bust his leg and now needs an auto.
Asking £1400.
Is it a vauxhall engine right?
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - 1616six - 30-05-2016
120 or 150?
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 30-05-2016
(30-05-2016, 07:33 PM)JJ0063 Wrote: 120 or 150?
Duno...my info is second hand..
How does one tell?
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - 1616six - 30-05-2016
Get the reg, or a pic of the engine bay
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 30-05-2016
Got a reg:
vn05vxv
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - 1616six - 30-05-2016
150bhp
Best engine but most problematic. It's the one I had in my vectra.. A map alone takes it to over 200bhp.
Things to look for are check the inlet manifold to see if the swirl bar is still attached.. New manifold time if not, or just blank them.
Usual EGR issues, blank it.
Boost solenoid occasionally clogs up on them, one bolt to remove & clean.
No DPF to worry about if it's a manual.
Not a bad engine the Z19DTH.
I know a chap near Ipswich who maps them for £90 odd, custom map he writes himself and he'll map the EGR out etc too. Proper mapping geek perfectionist.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 30-05-2016
He wont want a map.
Just that bits are available.good to know it has no dpf.
What you rekon to the price?
Thats for tips
...but...the mapper...does it use same mpps cable??
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - swampy - 30-05-2016
Yeah we have the 1.9 ttid and it does what we want
Nice comfy cruiser , good mpg and parts arnt bad priced
I've just got me an Astra 1.9 as a stop gap car till my new company car is all ok
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Eeyore - 30-05-2016
93 is good and as for parts ive found it pretty easy if not cheaper. lots of parts arent listed online but the saab places can still get hold of them
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - 1616six - 30-05-2016
I can't remember what cable if I'm honest.
What's the mileage?
You can pic up the Vectra variant for £700+ now if you're not fussed on mileage. I've seen saabs for less than a grand though.
Only other thing is they're strict on cambelt/pump intervals, water pumps seize if you leave them which then snaps the belt.
They both snap springs, a lot.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Toms306 - 30-05-2016
Same engine I had in my Vectra as well...
Decent power output, 6 speed box, nice and torquey! Pretty poor fuel economy for a diesel motorway cruiser though, like 45mpg avg doing the same routes as the 180bhp Golf would avg 60mpg and a 135bhp HDi 55mpg.
Thermostat was broken on the one I bought, cost £70 to replace, genuine only at the time. EGR got stuck open so had to be blanked. Turbo was on it's way out when I sold it at 110k (bought on 99k, had already had clutch and DMF replaced at 77k). Didn't like cold starting without glow plugs which is odd for a CR diesel. Spring snapped on mine between delivery and my first drive in it, wrecked a tyre, ruined any trust for my ownership tbh. But that said, I did own it for a year which is longer than most 306s I've had!
With mapping, you can use MPPS but it's EDC16 afaik, bigger map and more likely to get bricked than the old EDC15 stuff.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - 1616six - 30-05-2016
Oh yeah, the turbo will sound like a police siren.. They come out the factory sounding like it. Don't worry.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Toms306 - 30-05-2016
(30-05-2016, 09:24 PM)JJ0063 Wrote: Oh yeah, the turbo will sound like a police siren.. They come out the factory sounding like it. Don't worry.
Yeah unfortunately I still see the new owner occasionally, turned out it did need replacing lol.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 30-05-2016
Thanks lads
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 08-06-2016
So the one he found went before we could see it...
But we going to see this friday:
http://www.goldcarsltd.co.uk/used-cars/saab-9-3-1-9-tid-vector-sport-sportwagon-5dr-evesham-201606074685108
Thoughts??
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Eeyore - 08-06-2016
Nice and cheap. Again check 120 or 150. It doesn't have the top of the range stereo and it doesn't have the worst either. Lots of car for the money.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 08-06-2016
Again...not sure how to check... JJ knew from reg...but duno how to do that
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - 1616six - 08-06-2016
It's a 150, same checks as I advised before
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 08-06-2016
Thanks man
Seems a lot of car to me
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - welshpug - 08-06-2016
itll need to be bloody clean for that money, guy here has a Tid 120 bhp vector that he paid a grand less than that for!
(08-06-2016, 09:08 PM)Piggy Wrote: Again...not sure how to check... JJ knew from reg...but duno how to do that
free smartphone app man!!!
i have two, one that pulls up mot history tax and insurance details and the other brings up the standard registered details, model bhp capacity emissions registration date e5c.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Piggy - 08-06-2016
(08-06-2016, 09:43 PM)welshpug Wrote: itll need to be bloody clean for that money, guy here has a Tid 120 bhp vector that he paid a grand less than that for!
(08-06-2016, 09:08 PM)Piggy Wrote: Again...not sure how to check... JJ knew from reg...but duno how to do that
free smartphone app man!!!
i have two, one that pulls up mot history tax and insurance details and the other brings up the standard registered details, model bhp capacity emissions registration date e5c.
Interesting...£500 eh...must have been high miles/tatty?
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Toms306 - 08-06-2016
It says the power output in the spec list on there lol.
I'd be slightly worried about the clutch being changed then sold/px'd 500 miles later though? Why would anyone do that unless there were bigger issues!?
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - C2K - 09-06-2016
(08-06-2016, 10:23 PM)Toms306 Wrote: It says the power output in the spec list on there lol.
I'd be slightly worried about the clutch being changed then sold/px'd 500 miles later though? Why would anyone do that unless there were bigger issues!?
Pot, kettle, GTi6!
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - welshpug - 09-06-2016
122k miles, seems to drive ok.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Toms306 - 09-06-2016
(09-06-2016, 12:34 AM)C2K Wrote:(08-06-2016, 10:23 PM)Toms306 Wrote: It says the power output in the spec list on there lol.
I'd be slightly worried about the clutch being changed then sold/px'd 500 miles later though? Why would anyone do that unless there were bigger issues!?
Pot, kettle, GTi6!
Not only the '6, I have quite a bit of experience in this area.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - welshpug - 09-06-2016
my landlord has picked an 07 identical to that advert, seems 07 is the first year of the DPF, as its blocked.
but 118k miles, £500.
beware the rear light clusters, 140 a corner for used items on eBay!!
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Toms306 - 09-06-2016
I thought all the estates got a DPF but the hatches didn't?
If the DPF is blocked, that's probably why it was cheap...
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - welshpug - 09-06-2016
easy fix though, ten minutes to unbolt the unit :p
map the bugger to 190 bhp, job done
oh yeah, was caused by a faulty egr valve and map sensor, which the previous owner got fixed.
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - Toms306 - 09-06-2016
Easy fix for you lol, not necessarily for Piggys mate!
RE: Saab 93 1.9tdi...thoughts - welshpug - 09-06-2016
if he knows a piggy, easy fix.