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Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 06-04-2016
I have heard on the XUD section of this forum that vegetable oil is excellent at cleaning out and removing deposits and sludge from fuel systems. So much so that a new fuel filter has to be put in the car after the first 200 or so miles as it has clogged with all the gunk that has been shifted.
I know we run HDI's which are too sensitive to run veggie oil. What I am wondering though is what would happen say if you mixed 1l of the stuff into the tank with regular diesel. Would that help give everything a good clean through do you reckon or would it risk clogging injectors and stuff like that?
Just wondering what the possible damages could be and whether there would actually be any possible benefits.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - cully - 06-04-2016
use two stroke mixing oil for the HDI not veg
200-300ml per tankfull
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 06-04-2016
I have been using that tbf
just heard that adds a bit more lubricity to the fuel which is good for the pump and injectors. The veg I was thinking might help remove sludge build up in the intank fuel pump etc
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - cully - 06-04-2016
injectors and pump wont like the veg as it has poor lub property's
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 06-04-2016
Well this is clearly a no go
Worth an ask as it would be an easy way to give it a clean out if it was possible haha.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Poodle - 06-04-2016
Use premium fuel for that.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Toms306 - 06-04-2016
Use Morrison's fuel... It's full of veg anyway...excellent at moving all the crap through...but that crap will then get stuck in the injectors.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - toseland - 07-04-2016
If you use twostroke oil get the low ash content stuff
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 07-04-2016
I use this stuff http://www.commaoil.com/passenger-vehicles/products/view/267/TST1L/
Seems to be decent enough
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Toms306 - 10-04-2016
Rather than starting another Jack style thread, I thought I'd ask in this one...
Has anyone tried Millers EcoMAX diesel additive? http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60222-millers-oils-diesel-power-ecomax-fuel-treatment.aspx
Seems to get decent reviews and I'm kinda tempted to try it... Was gonna try a bit of 2stroke but after doing more research into it, there's quite a bit of evidence to prove it doesn't do anything, and can cause valve issues.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - toseland - 10-04-2016
if you type in runny nose, sore throat, shortness of breath and aches and pains you are definately going to find information on heart attacks, cancer, meningitis etc etc.. this is because the internet is specifically 99% bullshit...
2stroke oil causing valve damage? how exactly? the caustic properties? the raising of the burn temperatures? pull the other 1.. it is a lubricant that has the same properties of combustion as diesel, providing you get the low ash it wont coke up stuff in the engine if it does at all.. i am assuming it was a VAG engine, and what they failed to mention is that they had a stage3 tune, with no intercooler and 100000 miles between oil changes..
what it does do is increase my MPG somewhat, additionally quieten down my injectors and engine on startup and makes the car feel markedly smoother.. it smokes less under boost too
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Toms306 - 11-04-2016
Nah it's something about Zinc in it causing problems.
Granted the internet isn't all true...after all I post shite every day...
But sites like this look pretty convincing to me! I know it's in SA but they seem to have the same regs as the EU.http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-oil-in-diesel-technical-study.php
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - toseland - 11-04-2016
wasn't there one posted a couple of months ago about that miracle fuel addative that was specifically debunked by one of our very experienced forum members whom had worked on said project's results and found that it was shite?
that was a very nicely written website, very convincing if you read into it..
here are a few more
http://www.labour.org.uk/
https://www.conservatives.com/
https://www.illuminatiofficial.org/
remember that paper written about the link between MMR and autism? that was quite convincing..
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Toms306 - 11-04-2016
How do you ever know what to believe on the internet?
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - toseland - 11-04-2016
its simple., you belkeive everything or nothing.. you chose the everything approach obviously..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7377002.stm
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Toms306 - 11-04-2016
If you believe nothing how do you learn anything?
I don't believe everything, but when a few sites or posts seem to be leading the same way I'd tend to believe that over a solitary 'fact' or random opinion that is placed as a fact...
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 11-04-2016
That website does look very legitimate and has some interesting facts and data. I can't see why it wouldn't be a real investigation as there is no reason for the person writing it to sway the results due to money etc
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Poodle - 12-04-2016
(11-04-2016, 08:55 PM)toseland Wrote: its simple., you belkeive everything or nothing.. you chose the everything approach obviously..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7377002.stm
That's real alright, or close to it anyway, just a bit irrelevant lol.
Read with a bit of savvy and you can have a good idea about whether or not something is accurate. Always take information from more than one source, by source 4 or 5 you can usually work out what is "common knowledge" and what is reality. If it's an article look at who is publishing it so you've got an idea of the motives behind the article and therefore any likely bias. If it's a forum have a look at the poster's other posts - do they actually appear to have sound knowledge and experience or do they just like the sound of their own voice and repeating what other people have said elsewhere (often inaccurately). I find it helps to imagine the sentences read aloud by somebody in a pub who is talking over everyone else at the table with a few mispronunciations thrown in.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - silverzx - 12-04-2016
On subject of VO. How much petrol is acceptable to put in the tank in order to thin it nicely? At what point will the engine go bang?
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Mattcheese31 - 12-04-2016
(12-04-2016, 10:27 AM)silverzx Wrote: On subject of VO. How much petrol is acceptable to put in the tank in order to thin it nicely? At what point will the engine go bang?
i just used to put a litre or 2 in a full tank in harsh winter, thinned it out and never went bang lol . .
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - silverzx - 12-04-2016
(12-04-2016, 10:50 AM)Mattcheese31 Wrote:(12-04-2016, 10:27 AM)silverzx Wrote: On subject of VO. How much petrol is acceptable to put in the tank in order to thin it nicely? At what point will the engine go bang?
i just used to put a litre or 2 in a full tank in harsh winter, thinned it out and never went bang lol . .
I really CBF to drop and strain my tank... Think I'll chuck a good few litres in with the 10-20 odd litre of veg in there at the moment, see what happens.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Piggy - 12-04-2016
I find it much easier to put the petrol in with the veg... Pours MUCH faster. Bit of a farce if using new veg oil...but with waste its simple enough.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Danny Wideboy - 12-04-2016
No more than 10% trent.
A couple of litres in with 20 be fine.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - silverzx - 12-04-2016
(12-04-2016, 02:58 PM)Danny Wideboy Wrote: No more than 10% trent.
A couple of litres in with 20 be fine.
But I want to see flames...
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Danny Wideboy - 12-04-2016
Then chuck a couple of litres in the footwell and light it.
Should be sufficient. :-)
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - silverzx - 13-04-2016
(12-04-2016, 09:04 PM)Danny Wideboy Wrote: Then chuck a couple of litres in the footwell and light it.
Should be sufficient. :-)
More specifically, I want flames out the exhaust.
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - Danny Wideboy - 15-04-2016
Ah. I see.
Silly me.
Pour the petrol in the exhaust and light it?
RE: Vegetable Oil as Fuel system cleaner? - silverzx - 18-04-2016
(15-04-2016, 08:13 PM)Danny Wideboy Wrote: Ah. I see.
Silly me.
Pour the petrol in the exhaust and light it?
Good shout, video to come soon.