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Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - BiG K - 10-02-2016
As we all know, our HDi engines are getting OLD, so I came across this article:
http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/engineering/people/academic-staff/aldo-rona/research/technology-development/internal-combustion-engines/fuel-system-cleaning-fluid-for-hdi-diesel-car-and-van-engines
Fantastic, not only is this product tested in laboratory conditions, it was actually tested on a 2l HDi! Bingo, except I have no idea what product was used....
So I did a bit of digging around and found this: http://www.hollandalexander.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Media-release-MONEY-SAVING-FUEL-PRODUCT-GOES-ON-SALE-AS-PRICES-SOAR.-HA22.08.2012.pdf
Which of course is this product:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLEAN-DRIVE-Car-Fuel-Valve-Injectors-DPF-Lambda-Sensor-Cleaner-cleandrive-/262045722774?hash=item3d03246896:g:dvgAAOSw~uhUo-zt
So has anyone use Clean Drive on their HDi?
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - toseland - 11-02-2016
Looks interesting, might have to research this, makes a change to see some reviewed published lab quality research that isn't biased by the company selling the peoductr
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 11-02-2016
Reckon it would be worth a try?
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - zx_volcane - 11-02-2016
University students develops new product with funding from the 'innovation partnership'
University publishes summary seeming to show that it works to improve mpg
Patents product and puts it on sale with fancy press release
Hmmmmmmm
Besides £20 for up to 6% improved mpg for up to 3 months - dependant on what milage that equates to, not sure its even cost effective.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Poodle - 11-02-2016
Exactly as above tbh, plus it was tested on the european driving cycle - the same system that produces the bullshit emissions and mpg figures for modern cars. Just another redex imo.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - pro_steve - 11-02-2016
I actually worked for this project to get their engine running. The way they conducted the before and after tests were not in any way comparable, and the product is not good to put in your fuel system. That's all I will say.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - welshpug - 11-02-2016
I would imagine it'd be akin to running HDI on petrol, not advisable, and you can imagine how detrimental to HP diesel pumps and injectors that is.
if your injectors are tired get new ones, or get yours rebuilt.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - zx_volcane - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 01:54 PM)pro_steve Wrote: I actually worked for this project to get their engine running. The way they conducted the before and after tests were not in any way comparable, and the product is not good to put in your fuel system. That's all I will say.
says it all then!
did we mention the product by name? clean drive i think, or was it cleandrive. review of clean drive, is clean drive actually any good? ...etc
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 11-02-2016
Go on let out the secrets
what sort of stuff would cause issues?
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Poodle - 11-02-2016
He can't share the information due to industrial espionage laws and stuff like that, most researchers on commercial projects have to sign confidentiality agreements.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 11-02-2016
Seems a bit of a bummer that he has revealed the only bits he needs to to stop people wanting to try it already and then you can't get the techie bits. Oh well haha
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Toms306 - 11-02-2016
Adding a bit of 2 stroke seems to be more beneficial than anything else... I'm fairly sure even that's just placebo though.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Magenta Sunset - 11-02-2016
would this be an alternative?
http://www.terraclean.co.uk/
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - welshpug - 11-02-2016
no.
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RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - BiG K - 11-02-2016
Well judging by Pro Steve's statement, I wouldn't try it on my HDi then! The "research" did seem a bit suspect as I noticed a typo on there
The European Driving Cycle isn't too bad in itself per se, it's more the manufacturers have found sneaky ways to exploit the flaws for their own gain. Peugeot state 54mpg for our 306 HDi's, over 100k miles, I have gotten 56mpg! (over 40k was with a remap too but full disclosure - injectors were all replaced for new ones 50k ago)
I'll just use Esso Premium Diesel now and again, apparently the difference is the fuel contains double the amount of detergents and I have noticed an improvement to engine running smoothness atleast. When I bought the car, it was fantastic on fuel, I filled up with some dodgy fuel and my mpg has never been the same since
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Poodle - 12-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 07:17 PM)JTaylor2005 Wrote: Seems a bit of a bummer that he has revealed the only bits he needs to to stop people wanting to try it already and then you can't get the techie bits. Oh well haha
Go ahead and try it then. Or do the research yourself, either way will get the result you want, it'll just require some actual work from you.
(11-02-2016, 11:32 PM)BiG K Wrote: Well judging by Pro Steve's statement, I wouldn't try it on my HDi then! The "research" did seem a bit suspect as I noticed a typo on there
The European Driving Cycle isn't too bad in itself per se, it's more the manufacturers have found sneaky ways to exploit the flaws for their own gain. Peugeot state 54mpg for our 306 HDi's, over 100k miles, I have gotten 56mpg! (over 40k was with a remap too but full disclosure - injectors were all replaced for new ones 50k ago)
I'll just use Esso Premium Diesel now and again, apparently the difference is the fuel contains double the amount of detergents and I have noticed an improvement to engine running smoothness atleast. When I bought the car, it was fantastic on fuel, I filled up with some dodgy fuel and my mpg has never been the same since
Fair point, but then it is seriously out of date, especially considering the massive advances in engine and control technology in the last couple of decades. Hmmm, I think i might be wandering off topic a bit here though lol...
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - JTaylor2005 - 12-02-2016
(12-02-2016, 07:11 AM)Poodle Wrote:(11-02-2016, 07:17 PM)JTaylor2005 Wrote: Seems a bit of a bummer that he has revealed the only bits he needs to to stop people wanting to try it already and then you can't get the techie bits. Oh well haha
Go ahead and try it then. Or do the research yourself, either way will get the result you want, it'll just require some actual work from you.
Not going to lie I wouldn't have thought it would be out there on the open web to even be researched if it was so confidential that Pro-steve couldn't tell anyone but hey-ho.
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Poodle - 12-02-2016
Have you looked? Also, have you heard what they say about assuming?
RE: Anyone tried this fuel system cleaner? - Dum-Dum - 13-02-2016
Read the first 2 lines of it and wouldn't touch it. They tested it on a 2000cc HDi when we all know these engines are 1997cc if they can't even get minor facts right then there is no chance on the rest of it.