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Identify these front brakes.. - Dazecoop - 20-12-2015
Excuse the disgusting rust/mud everywhere. Car I bought today which I'm breaking for parts, I noticed calipers/discs seems different to mine.
The car is a '98 Ph2 306 3 door D Turbo, exactly the same as mine. I realised their different when I found my 14" stock D Turbo wheels didn't fit. It seems they foul on centre bore, and are VERY close to fouling on caliper itself, so I guess caliper/discs are larger?
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Thanks!
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - welshpug - 20-12-2015
bosch 266mm, as used on 206/307 c2/3/4
edit, looks like it has abs so will be 266, there is a 247mm variant too iirc
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Dazecoop - 20-12-2015
(20-12-2015, 09:36 PM)welshpug Wrote: bosch 266mm, as used on 206/307 c2/3/4
edit, looks like it has abs so will be 266, there is a 247mm variant too iirc
Ok awesome, I guess they'd be an upgrade to standard D Turbo fronts? Worth doing?
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Nathan1305 - 20-12-2015
(20-12-2015, 09:41 PM)Dazecoop Wrote:(20-12-2015, 09:36 PM)welshpug Wrote: bosch 266mm, as used on 206/307 c2/3/4
edit, looks like it has abs so will be 266, there is a 247mm variant too iirc
Ok awesome, I guess they'd be an upgrade to standard D Turbo fronts? Worth doing?
Yeah would be a good little upgrade
same size as HDi brakes I believe
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Dazecoop - 20-12-2015
(20-12-2015, 09:51 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote:(20-12-2015, 09:41 PM)Dazecoop Wrote:(20-12-2015, 09:36 PM)welshpug Wrote: bosch 266mm, as used on 206/307 c2/3/4
edit, looks like it has abs so will be 266, there is a 247mm variant too iirc
Ok awesome, I guess they'd be an upgrade to standard D Turbo fronts? Worth doing?
Yeah would be a good little upgrade
Nice, that's a bonus then! Is it just a case of swapping calipers/discs/pads? Any master cylinder differences? Brake line differences?
I'll get new discs & pads, don't worry!
Identify these front brakes.. - Frosty - 20-12-2015
There 1 of the more rare calipers I have found on 306s. Had some on a 1.8 petrol ph3 I broke for bits back along.
Its pretty much just bolt on change, 1 think I do recommend is when the olds 1s are off run a tap through where the carriers bolts go to clean the threads up as some carriers are a bit thinner and the bolts tend to go pretty tight in the dirty threads.
Wouldn't worry to much about the master cylinder. I would say change it if fitting gti6 brakes but should be fine with these.
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Poodle - 21-12-2015
Your 14"s should fit on if they're 266 shouldn't they? Low spec HDis came with 14"s as standard and they don't have any clearance issues...
Edit: Scrap that, i'm thinking of steels and you're running harriers.
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Toms306 - 21-12-2015
Swallows and Harriers do fit over 266s.
They're tight though...as in so tight if one of the little 'butterfly' springs pops out of a Lucas caliper it scores the rim and makes a hell of a noise. 
I'd personally go for Lucas 266s if you can, easier to chose pads for and look better imo.
Those Bosch 266s only seem to come on ph3 1.8s, all my other ph3s have been Lucas!
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Dazecoop - 21-12-2015
(21-12-2015, 06:45 AM)Poodle Wrote: Your 14"s should fit on if they're 266 shouldn't they? Low spec HDis came with 14"s as standard and they don't have any clearance issues...
Edit: Scrap that, i'm thinking of steels and you're running harriers.
Yup, harriers indeed!
(21-12-2015, 09:05 AM)Toms306 Wrote: Swallows and Harriers do fit over 266s.
I'd personally go for Lucas 266s if you can, easier to chose pads for and look better imo.
Fair play! Thought about it last night, to be honest I won't bother swapping brakes to mine. I'll remove & sell them, my current brakes are more than good enough for what I use my car for (daily/motorway, nothing heavy)
To get Harriers/normal wheels to fit, just so I can get the car to the scrapyard, remove discs & calipers, should be able to still bolt up a wheel, right? Just needs to physically roll enough so I can get it on my trailer & back off again
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Toms306 - 21-12-2015
If you're still on 247s they aren't adequate for anything...main reason I mover to phase 3s haha.
As above though, any of the 14s, either steel or alloy DO fit, its just a fag paper of clearance lol.
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Dazecoop - 21-12-2015
(21-12-2015, 09:24 AM)Toms306 Wrote: If you're still on 247s they aren't adequate for anything...main reason I mover to phase 3s haha.
As above though, any of the 14s, either steel or alloy DO fit, its just a fag paper of clearance lol.
Haha, ok fair enough!
Tried getting the harriers to fit for 20 mins or so yesterday, just couldn't do it. Seemed to foul on centre bore, couldn't get it to bolt up square
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - welshpug - 21-12-2015
leave the discs on.
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Toms306 - 21-12-2015
Probably just dirt/rust on the centre looking at the state of it lol.
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Eeyore - 21-12-2015
yep theyre 266s. I had them on my 1.8. THey were the biggest callipers that fitted under my fondmetal alloys. Had to fit 5mm spacers and grind down the outside. Tbh i thought they were absolute balls.
RE: Identify these front brakes.. - Elfyno - 21-12-2015
yes,they're 266s
i'm fiiting this on my 106 and ihad them on my estate.