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Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 04-12-2015

Evening,

What's the easiest way to remove a rounded Torx bolt? It's properly tight - as in 3ft breaker bar on mole grips won't budge it kinda tight... Confused Eventually they just slip it with a lot of weight being a round head outside. Potentially been cross-threaded but hopefully not.

I'm guessing either cut a slit in the head with the Dremel or cut the headoff and try to mole grip the remaining threads? Really don't want to have to drill it!

Cheers
Tom


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - John1.4 - 04-12-2015

TNT works well, that or lots and lots of heat, weld a nut to it? i dunno really, anything that stuck i usually bin or attck with hammers


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Eeyore - 04-12-2015

do the molegrips spin because they cant get enough grip?

when i got bolts stuck in the roofbar holses i used a chisel and hammer to start undoing the bolt.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Niall - 04-12-2015

got a pic of it? Just so we can see access etc.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Connor - 04-12-2015

What are you up to Tom? Lol


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - andyyy - 04-12-2015

Could try easy outs , had good results in the past using them


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - cully - 04-12-2015

depending on what it is fixing will change the way you deal with it

picture would help a lot


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Stef205 - 04-12-2015

bang a 6 sided socket over it
weld to it
hammer and chisel


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - laurence_13 - 04-12-2015

hammer and chisels always a good shout... heat helps too, depending on location obviously! I usually heat them, then beat the next size up torx bit in and that does the trick


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 04-12-2015

More response than I expected on a Friday night lol! I'll try and give a bit more info, didn't think to take a pic at the time.

Its a clutch cover bolt, T40. Not really sure what's happened to it as they're not usually tight at all. Confused It's an internal torx so the outside of the head is rounded, no flat sides to grip with mole grips, extractors or bigger sockets

It's in a lightened fly so maybe dissimilar metals corroded or something? That's the reason I don't want to drill it either lol.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Stef205 - 04-12-2015

just weld a nut or bolt to it and have done with it.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 04-12-2015

Don't have a welder lol. Wouldn't know how to use one if I did. lol


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - cully - 04-12-2015

hammer chisel work it round i guess you have no welder


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 04-12-2015

Yeah that's looking like the best option to start with at least.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Connor - 04-12-2015

Or cut the clutch plate? Guessing you just want the lightened flywheel?


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 04-12-2015

Want to keep the clutch as well tbh, it's only about 18 months old and can't have covered many miles (albeit some track lol) so should still be good for a while.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - adam b - 04-12-2015

Spiral bolt removal socket will do rounded torx. Or hammer and chisel


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 07-12-2015

So, I'm sure you're all dying to know lol, it's out.

Hammer and chisel didn't have any effect. Continued with mole grips which just scuffed the head as they kept slipping. Tried hammering bigger Torx and Hex in, didn't work. Couldn't fit bolt extractor on with the clutch cover being so close. Then finally found a use for those imperial sockets lol, 1/2" socket smashed over the head well enough to start undo-ing it. Smile


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - cheapo - 07-12-2015

(07-12-2015, 11:59 AM)Toms306 Wrote: So, I'm sure you're all dying to know lol, it's out.

Hammer and chisel didn't have any effect.  Continued with mole grips which just scuffed the head as they kept slipping.  Tried hammering bigger Torx and Hex in, didn't work. Couldn't fit bolt extractor on with the clutch cover being so close. Then finally found a use for those imperial sockets lol, 1/2" socket smashed over the head well enough to start undo-ing it. Smile

Heh, it's likely that all the impacts helped to persuade it too.
 I was going to suggest a Stillsons type pipe wrench. I bought a 15" pair when I knew I'd have to do my track rod ends, but didn't need it. Helped my neighbour with it for the same job on his car though.  ThumbsUp


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - tigerstyle - 07-12-2015

Bit late, but if it's the last bolt, put the other ones back in to take a bit of the pressure off, undo the tightest one first.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - powerandtorque - 07-12-2015

Irwin Bolt Extractors are what you need for jobs like this - they're £20 odd for a set and they're brilliant things frankly when it comes to removing rounded off fixings ThumbsUp


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - silverzx - 07-12-2015

I vote heat or welder.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 07-12-2015

(07-12-2015, 02:16 PM)tigerstyle Wrote: Bit late, but if it's the last bolt, put the other ones back in to take a bit of the pressure off, undo the tightest one first.

It was the first one! I think it was just the spring tension causing the tightness though, nothing was crossthreaded. Some of the screws were tight in the clutch cover though, had to wind a couple of them out which seemed odd.

(07-12-2015, 04:01 PM)powerandtorque Wrote: Irwin Bolt Extractors are what you need for jobs like this - they're £20 odd for a set and they're brilliant things frankly when it comes to removing rounded off fixings ThumbsUp

I have a set, there wasn't enough space to fit one so close to the clutch cover protrusion though. Sad That's the reason we had to use HDi bolts in this (I may well have slipped this one removing it previously) as the 1.8 bolts used normal heads which were too big. Any idea if XU10 clutch bolts are the same as DW10 ones? If they're really cheap new it might be a good idea to replace the set this time.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - powerandtorque - 07-12-2015

No they're different - XU10 bolts are M7x1 thread and XU7 and HDi are M8x1.25 thread.

However, you should be able to easily pick up some M8 high tensile cap head bolts from any fastener supplier for pennies.


RE: Rounded Torx Removal - Toms306 - 07-12-2015

Hmm, that's interesting. I'm not sure which ones the lightened fly was designed to take in that case. Confused