(22-09-2015, 09:55 AM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: Don't look at people sitting in traffic in London or you'll spend all your time screaming at them to get off their phone. So many people doing it, it's ridiculous.

(22-09-2015, 12:10 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Problem there is slow moving traffic makes you feel like you've got less to concentrate on, never see anyone on the phone speeding through a single carriage national limit...  

(22-09-2015, 11:03 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Just to emphasise that point, this is the 206

(24-09-2015, 09:16 AM)r3k1355 Wrote: The prison sentences for killing someone on the road are far too lenient IMO.

If the reason for the crash is someone was drunk, or on the phone then they need a significant prison sentence.

(24-09-2015, 11:37 AM)Redordead89 Wrote:

(24-09-2015, 09:16 AM)r3k1355 Wrote: The prison sentences for killing someone on the road are far too lenient IMO.

If the reason for the crash is someone was drunk, or on the phone then they need a significant prison sentence.

Mandatory 10-15 years for death by dangerous driving I would say is fair!

(24-09-2015, 06:29 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Prison is a bit pointless tbh...  It doesn't help the prisoners, it doesn't help the families affected by the prisoners actions, it just costs tax payers money.  Where's the sense in that!?  Prison is ONLY good for keeping dangerous people away from the public, most of which will be mentally ill and either need help or will be permanently mentally f*cked.

Bring back the death penalty for some and have massive fines for others imo...  Very few would be on the phone if the fine was a grand each time...

(24-09-2015, 07:41 PM)Ruan Wrote: IMHO there needs to be more reprimand for doing dangerous shit on the road...

As in, f*cking dangerous overtakes, cutting across multiple lanes to get to your junction because you're being an oblivious f*ck etc... All of these cost lives just as much as being on the phone - I know too many incidents where someone could have easily been killed, but were lucky that time they didn't... That needs to be dealt with far more seriously IMHO, if there were cameras to catch that sort of stupid shit, lives lost would be far less...

Enthusiastic driving is NOT the biggest killer on the roads, not by a long shot!

(24-09-2015, 02:18 PM)Herby7 Wrote: I remember this . The Driver was fiddling with the phone in the cabin he did not even realise there was a peugeot 206 in front of him. He thought it was just vw passat .  Where i live u see people all the time on their phones. As people have said these days u dont need touch the phones as it all built in to cars .

(24-09-2015, 06:32 PM)Niall Wrote:

(24-09-2015, 06:29 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Prison is a bit pointless tbh...  It doesn't help the prisoners, it doesn't help the families affected by the prisoners actions, it just costs tax payers money.  Where's the sense in that!?  Prison is ONLY good for keeping dangerous people away from the public, most of which will be mentally ill and either need help or will be permanently mentally f*cked.

Bring back the death penalty for some and have massive fines for others imo...  Very few would be on the phone if the fine was a grand each time...

There is some sense in this. I do believe prison sentences shouldn't be handed out unless you are dangerous to the public but in all fairness, if you have taken someones life from them due to your carelessness then you should also be punished. Difficult one.

(24-09-2015, 11:36 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote:

(24-09-2015, 06:32 PM)Niall Wrote:

(24-09-2015, 06:29 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Prison is a bit pointless tbh...  It doesn't help the prisoners, it doesn't help the families affected by the prisoners actions, it just costs tax payers money.  Where's the sense in that!?  Prison is ONLY good for keeping dangerous people away from the public, most of which will be mentally ill and either need help or will be permanently mentally f*cked.

Bring back the death penalty for some and have massive fines for others imo...  Very few would be on the phone if the fine was a grand each time...

There is some sense in this. I do believe prison sentences shouldn't be handed out unless you are dangerous to the public but in all fairness, if you have taken someones life from them due to your carelessness then you should also be punished. Difficult one.

I disagree. Some people are never going to be dangerous but need locking up more than someone who causes injury. The recidivist thieves and especially burglars cause misery to dozens of people most of whom will have sleepless nights because of it, alot won't feel safe in their own home for some time and some find it so traumatic that they actually end up having to move house.

I don't know if you know but a few years ago I was the victim of an attempted robbery of which I still bear the physical scars and had a knife pulled on me but TBH after that night it barely bothered me however on the other hand some bastards tried kicking in my front door at 3am one night and I barely slept for a week. It was that bad I almost went to stay at my parents and I had a heart attack at the slightest noises during the night for months afterwards.

Which one do you think is more dangerous?
Bear in mind after the robbery I ended up being carted off to hospital covered in blood having run for my life scaling a 10ft fence and wading through a bramble patch, the burglars I never even saw after jumping out of bed and grabbing a 6D mag lite to go and batter them.

Still think only dangerous people should go to prison?