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Cordless impact wrench - lolsteve - 02-05-2015
Birthday is coming up so a good time to get a decent tool as i often like to cheap out
Wanting a tool to help power through removing rusty ass bolts without rounding them all off on areas like the brakes/suspension
Not sure what torque rating I'll need though, they all sound pretty high but unsure if its just selling tactics. Alot of "reviews" as well just talk about removing wheel nuts rather than high torque rusty bolts
My experience with cordless is with snap on which has been outstanding both times however cant justify price etc etc
willl stuff like this be okay with 220NM?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLARKE-IMPACT-WRENCH-1-2-DRIVE-CARRY-CASE-CORDLESS-CIR220-4500635-/111591886483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fb650e93
Or will I need more?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Cordless-Impact-Wrench-Power-Gun-24V-1-2-Drive-325lb-ft-CP2400/311274617139?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D9340ab4a332b4ed6b01a0e78c441b276%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251943526393&rt=nc
My concern with the Sealey is it looks longer than the Clarke and wouldnt want to fit that it wont fit in areas where i'll need it
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Seb_Ryan - 02-05-2015
Ive got a dewalt one and its a good bit of kit, was about 180 quid. Its the same as mac tools one but mac add about 100 quid ontop and that was from the mac tool man himself lol
RE: Cordless impact wrench - highwayman306 - 02-05-2015
Decent spanners, sockets and a nice length of scaffold pipe
...maybe a decent hammer too lolBreaker bars are good tools to have too
If you wanted to buy one of those I would go for the Sealey personally, for the areas that you can't get that gun into, there is always another way
RE: Cordless impact wrench - HDi--Power - 02-05-2015
Anything less than 800nm and you will be disappointed, 400nm is not enough to be really useful
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Jonny81191 - 02-05-2015
If you can't justify snap on, have a look at Milwaukee stuff. http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2663-22
PM'd also
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Paul_13 - 02-05-2015
Just a word of advice with the Clarke one, don't charge the battery unattended. A member on here nearly lost his house cos the thing caught fire. Might of been an isolated incident, but be warned
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Stef205 - 02-05-2015
ive a ryobi unit with a 4.0ah battery does all my axle work and crank bolts does everything i ask of it.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - 1616six - 02-05-2015
I've had the Clarke one about a year, got it from machine mart. Haven't found anything it can't undo yet.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - lolsteve - 02-05-2015
(02-05-2015, 10:38 AM)highwayman306 Wrote: Decent spanners, sockets and a nice length of scaffold pipeIt's more for bolts I feel will round with too much force, the added impactness will air in loosening stuff plus make jobs alot quicker and easier on my hands as I keep turning up to work everyweek with more and more chunks missing
Breaker bars are good tools to have too
If you wanted to buy one of those I would go for the Sealey personally, for the areas that you can't get that gun into, there is always another way
(02-05-2015, 11:08 AM)Jonny81191 Wrote: If you can't justify snap on, have a look at Milwaukee stuff. http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2663-22
PM'd also
Would love it but might be a little out the price range, wouldnt want to ask that much of parents but havent really got much of my own money to put into the pot so to speak(02-05-2015, 12:46 PM)Stef205 Wrote: ive a ryobi unit with a 4.0ah battery does all my axle work and crank bolts does everything i ask of it.http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ryobi-BIW180M-Impact-Wrench-Body/dp/B003ASTHX0
like this?
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Poodle - 02-05-2015
My experience with Ryobi cordless stuff hasn't been amazing, but then again it hasn't been half as bad as expected. The new kid at work uses the sealey one without any problems as far as i've seen, but then he hasn't had it long. If you're not using it daily i reckon the clarke would do the trick nicely, most of the clarke kit i've used seems pretty great value for money and it's not the end of the world if you have to get the breaker bar out now and again. Although it might be considering your mincy little breaker bar lol.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - lolsteve - 02-05-2015
Will the clarke provide enough torque though? Asked my garage and they said the clarke stuff is budget and should really aim for Makita like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAKITA-18V-LXT-BTW450-BTW450Z-BTW450RFE-IMPACT-WRENCH-/201331923354?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ee051599a
JJ what bolts have you used yours with? Were they particularly rusty or tight?
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Poodle - 02-05-2015
That does look a lot better...
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Jonny81191 - 02-05-2015
That makita looks like a good option tbh, middle of the road price, decent enough brand
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Toms306 - 02-05-2015
(02-05-2015, 11:03 AM)HDi--Power Wrote: Anything less than 800nm and you will be disappointed, 400nm is not enough to be really useful
Don't agree there I'm afraid.
I've got a mains powered one at 450Nm that I've broken many rusty old Peugeots with now, only ever come across one crank pulley bolt it couldn't shift, but I couldn't shift it manually with huge extension bars either so something odd happened there lol. Does everything I ask, wheel bolts, hub nuts, crank pulley (usually lol), flywheel bolts, suspension and steering bolts. There's nothing tighter than 400Nm on a normal road car that I can think of. Only issue you may find with a battery one of 'low' torque is that the max torque only lasts a short while until the battery starts draining.
I have a Ryobi drill and jigsaw (they're part of the 'use the same battery' thing) and tbh they're useless. Much rather have a corded one and a 50 metre extension.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - lolsteve - 02-05-2015
Just found this review of the Sealey haha
"I had high hopes for this although I got it at an offer price. However as with everything else in life, you get what you pay for.
First of all there's the 325lb.ft of torque. We tested this claim by tightening the wheel nuts on a land rover to 275lb.ft then tried to undo them using the CP2400 with a fully charged battery. It failed miserably, even at 225lb.ft it failed to undo them.
We them used the gun to do up some safety rails to the back of a trailer, now here it did ok and there was no danger of snapping the 8mm bolts. However it only managed to do 14 of these (75mm long) before the battery gave up and it lost all useful power.
Although rather heavy if would probably be ok for home use, but for professional workshop use, don't bother as its a waste of time and money, and certainly not worth more than one"
Just a shame the makita doesnt have battery or charger. With them it's £270
RE: Cordless impact wrench - 306carter - 02-05-2015
You can get second hand makita 18v chargers on ebay for less than £20 and the batterys are around £30 for 3ah used or around £50 new. Plus they do a Grinder, Resip, Various Torches ect. I have bult quite a collection myself.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Tom - 02-05-2015
The Ryobi ones are what the Mightycarmods boys use, must be ok :p Always heard good things about the Milwaukee ones aswell. And just for good measure i have an 18v and 14.4v snap on impact guns, 1/2" and 3/8" and they're great
RE: Cordless impact wrench - shervo - 02-05-2015
Personally I would go snap on, ingersol rand or milwaukee also id go lithium ion batteries due to the fact that they perform exactly the same power until the second they die but then again I do use these everyday.
Cordless impact wrench - Frosty - 02-05-2015
Defo something that are worth spending the extra few quid on. I got a snap on 1 and its a great bit of kit
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Stef205 - 02-05-2015
(02-05-2015, 01:04 PM)lolsteve Wrote:(02-05-2015, 12:46 PM)Stef205 Wrote: ive a ryobi unit with a 4.0ah battery does all my axle work and crank bolts does everything i ask of it.http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ryobi-BIW180M-Impact-Wrench-Body/dp/B003ASTHX0
like this?
Yeah thats it, thats just the bare unit mind.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Chris_90 - 02-05-2015
I recently looked in to buying one of these, was looking at Clarke but alot of people put me off them so decided to go second hand and I picked up a snap on ct4850 for £150 posted and it's extremely powerful I belive it's 550ftlbs. Definitely saved me loads of time when fixing car, only one thing is it tightens wheels bolts to tight so have to do them by hand.
Anyway what I'm saying is buy second hand but decent quality.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Toms306 - 02-05-2015
Wheel bolts should be torqued by hand anyway, not gunned until they shear.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Nath140889 - 03-05-2015
Id advise against the clarke one, mine used to not even undo wheel Nuts on my lazers, few year old now admittedly and may have improved since but as above i reccomend either snap on, milwake or mac tools cordless as ive used all of those in garages ive worked in and all veen far superior , womt be cheap though
If you go for clarke buy the corde one as its much much more powerful i own one of those too
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Poodle - 03-05-2015
Er, just let go of the trigger sooner, Chris...
Good shout on the lithium ion batteries, mine doesn't start to lose oomph until it's on the last bar of power on the battery indicator.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Jenkosowls - 03-05-2015
Can vouch on the makita one. I know some one who has the model up from the one in the link around 500nm with 2 4ah battery's bought a year ago for near on 500 quid breaks m12 bolts fairly easily...
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Piggy - 03-05-2015
(02-05-2015, 11:18 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Wheel bolts should be torqued by hand anyway, not gunned until they shear.
NEVER use them for wheel bolts!!!
Unless you have those really cool torque shaft wheel bolt thingys. Then you can brapp on them all day. I loved them
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Poodle - 03-05-2015
Using them for wheel bolts is fine if you've got a decent progressive trigger, mine does up undertray screws without tearing out the plastic threads, just have to operate it with slightly more finesse than your average gorilla.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - cully - 03-05-2015
(03-05-2015, 07:31 AM)Poodle Wrote: just have to operate it with slightly more finesse than your average gorilla.
and how many DUGA-DUGA does your torque scale go up too
RE: Cordless impact wrench - Niall - 03-05-2015
Clarke stuff is OK but thats it. OK. You will find especially with cheaper cordless ones that although it may be 450nm for example, thats peak. Hence why Tom is saying his is always fine. His is mains.
If it were me, i would be going with Makita or Milwaukee (unless you can afford Snap on or Ingersol Rand but i think they only do air tools?). We've got both Makita and Milwaukee stuff at work which gets regular abuse and never gives up. Well worth the money tbh.
RE: Cordless impact wrench - PocketFighter - 03-05-2015
Come and buy a Milwaukee tool from me at ECP lol