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PAS delete - bashbarnard - 09-04-2015
Im thinking about removing my pas on my motor. Almost every car I've had without pas feels better. Except when parking. Id just like to hear from people who had done it? How they had done it? (ram removal or new rack) Were they happy with the results?
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 09-04-2015
anyone? im being impatient for once.
RE: PAS delete - Niall - 09-04-2015
Jonny all the numbers would be the guy to talk to about this. Removing the pump, ram and pipework is simple but you will end up with play slightly in the steering due to a slight gap either side of the shuttle being taken up by the fluid pressure. I think he welded it up but I'm not sure what he welded lol
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 09-04-2015
Fair enough. ill have the engine out when i do this so i could weld it at that point if need be.
RE: PAS delete - Jonny81191 - 09-04-2015
http://306oc.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=18204
Do it! Just make sure your MOT tester isn't a complete lady garden otherwise he'll fail it as it had PAS from the factory.
RE: PAS delete - Poodle - 10-04-2015
Yours was pretty heavy going in slow corners, Jonny, did feel nice though. Aren't you planning on doing something with a 2.1, bash? That'll be hell to manoeveur under about 15mph with all that weight over the front.
RE: PAS delete - Jonny81191 - 10-04-2015
Yeah, it was heavy but tbh i got used to it fairly quickly, does make parking a bit more difficult though
RE: PAS delete - Niall - 10-04-2015
Could just fit EPAS? And then have it switch off above x mph? Still got your pansy park assist so best of both worlds?
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 10-04-2015
Yeah but its only a little extra weight. Lol. That's when I'm thinking of doing it while engines out for conversion. I did look into epas but I like the idea of no pas. So its a little harder to park, that's like 1% of total driving time in my view.
So remove ram and weld up play. Seems simple enough. My mot tester is fine cant see it being an issue.
RE: PAS delete - Toms306 - 10-04-2015
Parking maybe 1% of driving time but its probably like 50% of steering! I wouldn't go with no PAS but each to their own, 306 steering is heavy enough as it is lol.
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 10-04-2015
306 steering isn't heavy at all. Have you ever drove an old landy!
The question that I really want to ask is Jonny. Was it worth it?
RE: PAS delete - Toms306 - 10-04-2015
Heavy for its age/weight then lol. Though I tend to squeeze into tiny spaces where the car doesn't really fit so dry steer a lot... I even found the lack of PAS annoying on a 106 with skinny tyres!
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 10-04-2015
Each to their own I guess. I like the "feel" of non pas. Makes me feel like I'm driving the car
RE: PAS delete - Poodle - 13-04-2015
(10-04-2015, 08:42 AM)bashbarnard Wrote: 306 steering isn't heavy at all. Have you ever drove an old landy!
The question that I really want to ask is Jonny. Was it worth it?
Daft question, everything Jonny does/has done is worth it, in his eyes at least.
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 21-04-2015
Just to let people know. Lo e the pas delete. Its epic!!
PAS delete - Janne L - 21-04-2015
You ppl are giving me ideas!
No pas means no pas pump, together with no AC means only the alternator left, so no need for a belt tensioner, and no need for such a big/heavy alternator mount... Hmmmm I'm liking where this is going!
RE: PAS delete - bashbarnard - 21-04-2015
That's what I've done. Stretch belt FTW
PAS delete - dr_jekyll - 21-04-2015
![[Image: 5e078564ea54c9cb889a5ab0ab97df5d.jpg]](http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/21/5e078564ea54c9cb889a5ab0ab97df5d.jpg)
Did my pas delete the other month, easy [FACE WITH STUCK-OUT TONGUE AND WINKING EYE]