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Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 08-03-2015
So MOT passed now to move onto clutch then turbo, was planning turbo first and clutch the following keep.
So last week my cable decided to snap (white clip at pedal end) replace cable and now the bite is right down at the bottom. First assumed it was becasue the old cable was so streatched but now gives a crunch when going into reverse and pedal doesnt fully return up when you lift you foot off. Anything obvious ive missed?Any thoughts?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - adam b - 08-03-2015
Is it a self adjustable one? Has it been routed correctly?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 08-03-2015
(08-03-2015, 05:24 PM)adam b Wrote: Is it a self adjustable one? Has it been routed correctly?
Yea self adjusted, definatly the correct cable, gonna chech the routing becasue it was done in darkness witch wouldnt help hahaha, the pedal comest all the way up if you pull it with your foot it that makes scence? but it full engages so its more of an annoyance than anything atm
Clutch UH-OH... - Frosty - 08-03-2015
Is the spring still on your clutch pedal?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Jonny81191 - 08-03-2015
Have you removed any locking collar on the self adjusting part? Sometimes they have a plastic clip to stop them "adjusting" in the packet..
If you have, and the routing is correct, stamp on the pedal a few times, the auto adjuster might need a bit of help.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Niall - 08-03-2015
That ^^. 9/10 if you're fitting a new cable to a old clutch, it needs some persuasion to get it to settle where it should.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 08-03-2015
(08-03-2015, 06:42 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote: Have you removed any locking collar on the self adjusting part? Sometimes they have a plastic clip to stop them "adjusting" in the packet..
If you have, and the routing is correct, stamp on the pedal a few times, the auto adjuster might need a bit of help.
Spring is still on pedal, what does the locker look like?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Jonny81191 - 08-03-2015
Pull the spring off the pedal, it's better without it anyway IMHO..
The cover will just be on the end of the auto adjuster, some don't have them and on those that do it's normally a different colour and has a sticker saying to remove it.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 08-03-2015
(08-03-2015, 07:42 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote: Pull the spring off the pedal, it's better without it anyway IMHO..
The cover will just be on the end of the auto adjuster, some don't have them and on those that do it's normally a different colour and has a sticker saying to remove it.
Does the spring not return the pedal from the floor after released?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Niall - 08-03-2015
(08-03-2015, 07:57 PM)Pug0BZ3011 Wrote:(08-03-2015, 07:42 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote: Pull the spring off the pedal, it's better without it anyway IMHO..
The cover will just be on the end of the auto adjuster, some don't have them and on those that do it's normally a different colour and has a sticker saying to remove it.
Does the spring not return the pedal from the floor after released?
No the clutch does that. The spring was initially there to take up any slack in the cable but it can cause more damage than good
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 08-03-2015
(08-03-2015, 08:03 PM)Niall Wrote:So the fact its now so low says new clutch to me but the pedal sticking means...?(08-03-2015, 07:57 PM)Pug0BZ3011 Wrote:(08-03-2015, 07:42 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote: Pull the spring off the pedal, it's better without it anyway IMHO..
The cover will just be on the end of the auto adjuster, some don't have them and on those that do it's normally a different colour and has a sticker saying to remove it.
Does the spring not return the pedal from the floor after released?
No the clutch does that. The spring was initially there to take up any slack in the cable but it can cause more damage than good
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Niall - 08-03-2015
No no no. Ignore where the biting point is or where the pedal sits. You need to set the adjuster by really stamping on the clutch pedal a few times. You will find the bite will change instantly then.
The sticking pedal is more than likely the clutch pedal spring. There was actually a Peugeot recall to remove these as they were prematurely destroying clutches.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 10-03-2015
(08-03-2015, 09:00 PM)Niall Wrote: No no no. Ignore where the biting point is or where the pedal sits. You need to set the adjuster by really stamping on the clutch pedal a few times. You will find the bite will change instantly then.
The sticking pedal is more than likely the clutch pedal spring. There was actually a Peugeot recall to remove these as they were prematurely destroying clutches.
Tried stamping on it and no difference...
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Piggy - 10-03-2015
did you remove the spring??
and check for the collar on the adjuster? as said, may be locked for keeping it from adjusting in the packet!
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 10-03-2015
(10-03-2015, 01:18 PM)Piggy Wrote: did you remove the spring??
and check for the collar on the adjuster? as said, may be locked for keeping it from adjusting in the packet!
Spring is still on, going to double check the old cable against the new to see if there is any adjuster when i get home from work
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Piggy - 10-03-2015
Take the spring off!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!111!!!!
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 10-03-2015
(10-03-2015, 03:18 PM)Piggy Wrote: Take the spring off!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!111!!!!
Is the one thats about an inch long and on the side of the clutch pedal? Of so how do you remove it?
Re: RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Seb_Ryan - 10-03-2015
(10-03-2015, 03:20 PM)Pug0BZ3011 Wrote:(10-03-2015, 03:18 PM)Piggy Wrote: Take the spring off!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!111!!!!
Is the one thats about an inch long and on the side of the clutch pedal? Of so how do you remove it?
Screwdriver/hammer how ever you feel fit.. Mine fell off lol
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Jonny81191 - 10-03-2015
Pull the retaining pin and lever it off sideways with a screwdriver/lever bar
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - tigerstyle - 10-03-2015
It goes with a twang, don't have your face under there as it goes.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 19-03-2015
(10-03-2015, 03:18 PM)Piggy Wrote: Take the spring off!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!111!!!!
Spring off, clutch feels abit more gradual again, but now the pedals floppy near the end (wha-hey) likes reverse alot better but it still closter to the floor than what it was
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Ruan - 19-03-2015
The adjuster simply hasn't set itself.
Take the cable off the gearbox, pull it in and out a few times, place it back on, then put your foot on the clutch and move it to the side so the pedal twangs up... That should solve it.
If that doesn't, it must be a faulty cable or you've still got the mechanism to stop it adjusting in the packet.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 20-03-2015
(19-03-2015, 09:57 AM)Ruan Wrote: The adjuster simply hasn't set itself.
Take the cable off the gearbox, pull it in and out a few times, place it back on, then put your foot on the clutch and move it to the side so the pedal twangs up... That should solve it.
If that doesn't, it must be a faulty cable or you've still got the mechanism to stop it adjusting in the packet.
I know the adjsuter is the part that clips to the back of the bulk head, will every new cable come with a mech to stop it adjusting? I didnt remove anything from the new cable so think it may be this, what is it i'm looking for? Like a tab?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Jonny81191 - 20-03-2015
The answer is in this thread, the adjuster stop has been described already. Have you tried removing the spring yet?
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 20-03-2015
(20-03-2015, 07:35 AM)Jonny81191 Wrote: The answer is in this thread, the adjuster stop has been described already. Have you tried removing the spring yet?
Going to have a look for the collar when i get out of work, yes spring taken off.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Niall - 20-03-2015
Not every new cable has this locking collar. I bought a original pug cable for my old 1.8 and it didnt have one on.
RE: Clutch UH-OH... - Pug0BZ3011 - 23-03-2015
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Not every new cable has this locking collar. I bought a original pug cable for my old 1.8 and it didnt have one on.
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Didn't have a lock colar but had a fitting that could be turned a few degrees, seems to have helped