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Diagnostics - shervo - 19-01-2015 I own a self service garage. basically people come to my garage and rent my ramps and tools by the hour to do there own repairs. We are finding recently that we are being asked if we have diagnostic tools. looking for any recommendations of an overall not to pricey obd diagnostic kit. RE: Diagnostics - r3k1355 - 19-01-2015 Maybe start with a cheap code scanner and work from there? Problem is alot of the more advanced diagnostics you need the manufacturer specific computer software to do the work, you'll spend tons of money if you want to get a range of those. Do you get one specific make in more than any other, or is it the usual mix of stuff you'd expect?? RE: Diagnostics - shervo - 19-01-2015 normally just a range of different cars with have here. and mostly all we get asked for is service light turn offs and general code reading. so we dont need something to advanced but would like some amount of good functions on it to prevent having to buy twice. http://www.launchtech.co.uk/enthusiast-diagnostics/launch-crp129-creader-professional was looking at this, anyone had any experience? RE: Diagnostics - ConorTRG - 19-01-2015 Most service lights can be turned of through the dash or on board computer. If you only after something cheap enough I'd take a look at the autel scanners. RE: Diagnostics - shervo - 19-01-2015 I know most can be turned off like that and we have auto data to show us how. But its always dissapointing to tell a customer no because we dont have diagnostics. And ok ill take a look at them now, you had experience with them? RE: Diagnostics - Ruan - 19-01-2015 To be fair, cheapest way to be able to clear codes on the biggest variety of cars would be the Torque Pro & ELM327 Bluetooth OBD reader - can clear most faults related to Engine Management... It can't really touch any other systems. However, for "Body Control" systems i.e. ABS, Traction Control, Dashboards, SRS etc - I don't think there's a "best" option - they tend to be extortionate and you have to buy plugins for various different vehicles... You might be worthwhile buying something like VCDS (VAGCom) with a lead, that will be able to communicate with anything VAG past about 1995 and clear any codes from any of the body systems... Maybe the Ford equivalent (can't remember what it's called..) which isn't overly expensive and IIRC you can use a butchered ELM327 cable to communicate with the "Body Control" systems. PP2K/Lexia will allow you to communicate with pretty much anything Citroen/Peugeot. That will cover a vast quantity of cars on the road today tbh - I'd say probably close to 30-40% of cars in the UK are VAG/PSA/Ford... RE: Diagnostics - nominous - 19-01-2015 Second that VCDS would be a very good purchase and you could list yourself on the various VAG forums as having the kit to use which would bring in custom. Where are you ? RE: Diagnostics - Toms306 - 19-01-2015 Fancy opening a self service garage near me lol? Would love a ramp to work on for bigger jobs! The modified ELM cable allows access to both low and high speed CAN (with a non modded ELM you can only access high or low) and works with Ford, Mazda and some others. Also still works as a standard ELM for other vehicles. There are some excellent bits of free software for it, FORScan for Fords is great. I have a generic reader (Laser 5091), so quick, easy and portable, reads generic codes, reads live data and turns off EML on most cars with OBD2 or CAN etc. Except some cars, such as the GTi6 aren't at all OBD compatible as I found this morning. ![]() RE: Diagnostics - shervo - 19-01-2015 Ok thanks ruan some great info there. Im purchasing pp2k for myself personally so we got that one covered. As for the elm327 and torque pro is this one correct if so ill order now http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=111088326026&alt=web (19-01-2015, 04:02 PM)nominous Wrote: Second that VCDS would be a very good purchase and you could list yourself on the various VAG forums as having the kit to use which would bring in custom. we are located in Brierly hill DY5 3LB and yeah great idea for the vag forums (19-01-2015, 04:04 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Fancy opening a self service garage near me lol? Would love a ramp to work on for bigger jobs! haha we would love to open many self service garages providing this one takes of as expected! and were can this modified elm cable be purchased or how is it modified? RE: Diagnostics - ConorTRG - 19-01-2015 I've a couple of autel scanners I'd use for a quick check sometimes, I'd use delphi mainly but its expensive enough. Its hard to beat a dedicated system for an exact make of car for in depth stuff, but by the sounds of what your doing I'd go for a system that covers the majority of cars. Also most of those types of systems are pretty user friendly. For example in Delphi/autocom to do a dpf regen/sensor calibration etc you just pick that option in vcds you have to go and start typing in codes etc, same to wind back the epb you use codes to do that. Launch do a small handheld system which seems good bit small for monitoring live data though IMO. RE: Diagnostics - nominous - 19-01-2015 (19-01-2015, 04:06 PM)shervo Wrote: we are located in Brierly hill DY5 3LB https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Motorhoist+Self+Service+Garage/@52.4734436,-2.1357145,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x79727f62dc6ac553 Got a website ? You should link that and some pics to the google maps. All free advertising ![]() Too far for me sadly. RE: Diagnostics - shervo - 19-01-2015 (19-01-2015, 04:32 PM)nominous Wrote:(19-01-2015, 04:06 PM)shervo Wrote: we are located in Brierly hill DY5 3LB we do have a website yes its www.motorhoist.co.uk price list and link to google maps should be on the website we are doing everything half price at the moment RE: Diagnostics - Toms306 - 19-01-2015 (19-01-2015, 04:06 PM)shervo Wrote: Excellent. ![]() Can purchase modded ELM cables on ebay for about £15, think mine came from tunnelrat or similar. You can mod them yourself if you're good at soldering, guides are online, but its not something I'd even bother trying when it was so cheap to buy ready done. I can't say how long any of the cheaper cables would last given heavy use though. RE: Diagnostics - Ruan - 19-01-2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-OBD2-ELM327-V1-5-Bluetooth-Car-Scanner-Android-Torque-Auto-Scan-Tool-OBD-II-/331206015268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d1d6ab924 I've personally used the same one as that - I can guarantee it works fine with the Torque Pro app on an Android phone, which from memory is £2.95. Won't touch complex body-control stuff, but will work with most EOBD engine management. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-USB-Modified-ELM327-Elmconfig-Forscan-Ford-Focus-Mondeo-S-Max-Kuga-/181457164970?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a3fb09aaa That's the modified ELM327 that you can use with FORscan and a few others. RE: Diagnostics - shervo - 19-01-2015 (19-01-2015, 04:51 PM)Ruan Wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-OBD2-ELM327-V1-5-Bluetooth-Car-Scanner-Android-Torque-Auto-Scan-Tool-OBD-II-/331206015268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d1d6ab924Great ruan ill get them ordered. Were can I get the software to be used with the modded elm lead? Im assuming its a windows xp based program that gets used with it? RE: Diagnostics - Ruan - 20-01-2015 http://forscan.org/download.html ![]() For the bluetooth one, it's £2.95 on the Google play store on Android, dunno about iPhone. RE: Diagnostics - shervo - 20-01-2015 (20-01-2015, 10:15 AM)Ruan Wrote: http://forscan.org/download.htmlThanks ruan. have you got a link to were vagcom can be purchased from? RE: Diagnostics - Midnightclub - 20-01-2015 You can also get hold of a program called INPA which works for BMW, Mini and Rolls-royce (it's the equivilant of PP2000 etc.. dealer level diags) it uses the same cable as VAG cars. |