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The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 12-10-2014
"stock"
Well, close enough
I've always fancied something fun straight out of the box, so when Frosty wanted the race estate, this beauty found it's way onto my drive..
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Shortly afterwards, I accidentally set fire to my rear beam mounts so figured I may as well weld them up solid, pics to follow of those once I've fitted them
While that was happening, I ordered a set of "stock" shocks and springs to replace the worn out originals.
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And of course, the most important mod of all, the straw hat police deterrent!
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That's all for now folks, the rear will be lowered to match the front and there'll be a nice rebuilt engine going in, but I just went to the Nurburgring (again) and apart from using a tiny bit of oil, she's been faultless
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The "stock" S16 project - Jtrigga - 12-10-2014
Love it makes me miss my ph1 6
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Lil8407 - 12-10-2014
The straw hat actually work lol x
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Poodle - 13-10-2014
Well he drives like a maniac and has yet to be pulled with the straw hat, so i can only assume so.
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-10-2014
(12-10-2014, 11:56 PM)Lil8407 Wrote: The straw hat actually work lol x
(13-10-2014, 05:28 AM)Poodle Wrote: Well he drives like a maniac and has yet to be pulled with the straw hat, so i can only assume so.
It's a tried and tested technique, repels car thieves too
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Matt-Rallye - 13-10-2014
Think i better invest in a straw hat
Damn you and your functioning S16
i need a kick up the arse to do something with mine!
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Frosty - 13-10-2014
Good to see a project thread up for this mate. Glad to see it has gone to a good home and hope your enjoying it!
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Lil8407 - 13-10-2014
Think I'll have to get one then
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 12-01-2015
Update time!!
I've made a start on stripping the spare engine. The intention is to rebuild it and make shiny what currently is not, I'll be building an electrolysis bath and attacking everything I can with it!
There's then 2 options.. Because of my head injury, it's quite likely that I'll be stopped from driving for 6 months. If that's the case, then I'll be looking to make a bit more power, so I've been looking into a few ways of achieving that.
If I'm allowed to continue driving, then this will be more of a stock rebuild, just to leave me with a very clean engine to drop in.Today's progress!
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RE: The "stock" S16 project - Piggy - 12-01-2015
Nice
Lets see your bath then!
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 12-01-2015
I haven't made it yet, hopefully I'll get it done tomorrow.
RE: The "stock" S16 project - procta - 12-01-2015
I nearly got my hands on one of these 10 years ago for 200 quid, needed a lamba sensor, and a proper front bumper.
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Frosty - 12-01-2015
Good to see your cracking on with the engine mate. I will be keeping an eye on this
RE: The "stock" S16 project - 7057sam - 12-01-2015
Looks great buddy
How many laps did you do at the ring?
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 07:17 PM)Piggy Wrote: Nice
Lets see your bath then!
Here you go, started fizzing as soon as I plugged it in
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(12-01-2015, 08:13 PM)7057sam Wrote: Looks great buddy
How many laps did you do at the ring?
Not enough
Only got a couple in due to rubbish weather and the track being closed a lot. Then when the weather was good everyone decided to run out of talent and closed the track due to driver failure
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
Today I've built up my electrolysis bath, spent a lot of time tidying and cleaning my man cave in preparation for the engine to be in pieces, and stripped the engine mostly, just need to get the crank pulley bolt undone to get the crank out.
What I got to this morning, a proper mess
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So I had a good tidy before taking anything else apart.
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There's a load of sludge and very dirty oil deposits, looks like this engine has been stood for a while!
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I'm also not sure whether to reuse the big end bearings, as they have light scoring on them, but it's even across all 4 and they have no damage that I can feel. Even if I go for the power build, I'll be staying near (hopefully close to, and preferably just over
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RE: The "stock" S16 project - Niall - 13-01-2015
For the sake of cost, just replace the big end bearings. Im assuming your doing the thrust and main bearings as well?
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
The bores look nice and clean, with no lip on the top
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And here's the electrolysis bath, set up in the secondary man shed. I started it at 11am, so I'll leave it as late as I can this evening and then give it a rinse, I'm hoping for good results!
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(13-01-2015, 05:26 PM)Niall Wrote: For the sake of cost, just replace the big end bearings. Im assuming your doing the thrust and main bearings as well?
That's the thing, I was going to see what the condition is like when I've got the crank out. As long as it's all good and the thrust is within tolerance I'm thinking of just sticking it all back together after a good clean.
But you're right, in the ideal world I would replace them.. Just wanted people's opinions on the matter.
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Niall - 13-01-2015
If i remember rightly, it cost me about £55 for my big ends, mains and thrust bearings but that was a fairly good cash price. I think a set of J4RS big ends is about £40 on their own! Im sure you've got some decent contacts through work to get decent prices
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Frosty - 13-01-2015
That engine wouldn't off been used for a while, I think the guy i bought the s16 that the engine come out of had been sat for at least a couple of years and i only drove it about 10 miles. Then took the engine out and it sat in the garage for over a year
RE: The "stock" S16 project - MY95 - 13-01-2015
What's your plans to reach the 200bhp mark Jonny? Lovely car by the way
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
(13-01-2015, 05:59 PM)Niall Wrote: If i remember rightly, it cost me about £55 for my big ends, mains and thrust bearings but that was a fairly good cash price. I think a set of J4RS big ends is about £40 on their own! Im sure you've got some decent contacts through work to get decent prices
That's not bad at all, I'll have a further look.
(13-01-2015, 06:01 PM)Frosty Wrote: That engine wouldn't off been used for a while, I think the guy i bought the s16 that the engine come out of had been sat for at least a couple of years and i only drove it about 10 miles. Then took the engine out and it sat in the garage for over a year
Explains the chronic mess in the sump and staining on the internals
(13-01-2015, 06:02 PM)MY95 Wrote: What's your plans to reach the 200bhp mark Jonny? Lovely car by the way
The easy way would be to fit a GTi6 inlet mani, and with some work I'm fairly sure I can make the exhaust mani fit as well. Then a lightened and balanced bottom end, possibly flywheel.. That together with a remapped GTi6 ecu and a bit more fuel should clear the 180 mark with apparent ease from what I can find. That's as far as my research has got me!
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Niall - 13-01-2015
Who are you going to get to do the remap?
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
Not a clue yet
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Niall - 13-01-2015
Lol furry muff. Issue with the gti ecu is you can't live map it. have to take the chip out and flash it every time you want to alter the map. Depending on your budget, may be wise keeping an eye out for some aftermarket management!
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
Oh I wasn't aware of that..
I'll have a look at my options then!
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Niall - 13-01-2015
Unfortunately so
Otherwise a lot of people wouldn't bother going for things like Omex with the 306 engines as the 1AP they used on the RS engine is actually very advanced for its time!Also, theres only a handful of people over the country who can reprogram them. At least with aftermarket you can dick about with it your self
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Jonny81191 - 13-01-2015
Looking good! Gonna take the wire brush to it tomorrow
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RE: The "stock" S16 project - MY95 - 13-01-2015
Nice one! You thought about cams? might just reach you the magic 200 with the extra fuel and rest of the above that you said
RE: The "stock" S16 project - Poodle - 14-01-2015
Can't believe how easily that engine came apart after it had been stood for a while, makes a change from the HDis!
That electrolysis bath is the dogs danglies though, need to find something we can fit a block in...