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Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 12-08-2014
What's the benefit of gti6 brakes over dturbo brakes? And how can I tell if I already have gti6 ones just incase they have been upgraded?
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - 1616six - 12-08-2014
They stop the car quicker. Lol
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 12-08-2014
(12-08-2014, 08:19 PM)JJ0063 Wrote: They stop the car quicker. Lol
Fair point haha but will they give a better pedal feel?
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Grant - 12-08-2014
(12-08-2014, 08:14 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: What's the benefit of gti6 brakes over dturbo brakes? And how can I tell if I already have gti6 ones just incase they have been upgraded?
In short; they have bigger pistons, and a larger master cylinder, so they are able to exert more braking force over the larger diameter disc they use. The larger diameter of the disc will in turn mean that they will dissipate heat more effectively, thus brake more efficiently for longer.
You will be able to tell if you have them already by the diameter of the discs, or the brand of the calliper.
Hope that helps
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 12-08-2014
(12-08-2014, 08:21 PM)Grant Wrote:(12-08-2014, 08:14 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: What's the benefit of gti6 brakes over dturbo brakes? And how can I tell if I already have gti6 ones just incase they have been upgraded?
In short; they have bigger pistons, and a larger master cylinder, so they are able to exert more braking force over the larger diameter disc they use. The larger diameter of the disc will in turn mean that they will dissipate heat more effectively, thus brake more efficiently for longer.
You will be able to tell if you have them already by the diameter of the discs, or the brand of the calliper.
Hope that helps
That's great mate
going to be upping the power soon so thought I'd do the brakes as well, bit off topic but what sort of power will a tuned bosch pump, TD04 turbo and inter cooler give?
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Danny2009 - 12-08-2014
I pulled 177 Bhp and 247 lb ft on a tuned 9mm Bosch and top mount intercooler at 22psi
I had standard d turbo brakes on that, more power Dosent make you go any faster just gets to speed quicker
But it is advised to get gti6 brakes and I would recomend the gti6 master cylinder too to take the travel out the pedal and got instant braking as you you the pedal
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Toms306 - 12-08-2014
247mm brakes look ridiculous behind cyclones, you'll be able to tell if you still have those or not.
GTi6 brakes will be much better than those, they couldn't even stop my 1.4!
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - bigcheez2k3 - 12-08-2014
Take a pic of your wheels, we'll be able to tell straight away.
This is cyclones with 247mm brakes (DTurbo ones)
![[Image: KdVucp9.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/KdVucp9.jpg)
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 12-08-2014
(12-08-2014, 09:06 PM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: Take a pic of your wheels, we'll be able to tell straight away.
This is cyclones with 247mm brakes (DTurbo ones)
These are mine
sorry if it's not great quality it's a bit dark out haha
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Danny2009 - 12-08-2014
There definitely bigger than standard hard to say what
Get a tape on the disk if there 266mm there hdi brakes
If there 283mm there gti6
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Ruan - 12-08-2014
Look like GTi6 brakes to me.
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Janne L - 12-08-2014
GTI calipers have a set of cooling fins on them that other calipers lack.
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 12-08-2014
(12-08-2014, 09:51 PM)Danny2009 Wrote: There definitely bigger than standard hard to say what
Get a tape on the disk if there 266mm there hdi brakes
If there 283mm there gti6
Yeah they seem a bit bigger I'll have to measure them, if they are HDi brakes will they stand up to around 170bhp? They seem pretty powerful now but I'm not sure what they will be like at that power
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - silverzx - 13-08-2014
Look like '6 brakes.
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Toms306 - 13-08-2014
GTi6 brakes -
![[Image: IMAG3329_zps1e29fc89.jpg]](http://s796.photobucket.com/user/Toms306_photos/media/HDi%20DTurbo%20X285%20LFR/IMAG3329_zps1e29fc89.jpg.html)
266mm HDi/XSi brakes -
![[Image: ScrapStuffandBrakeChange024.jpg]](http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy247/Toms306_photos/ScrapStuffandBrakeChange024.jpg)
Yours look like GTi to me!
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 13-08-2014
(13-08-2014, 08:32 AM)Toms306 Wrote: GTi6 brakes -
266mm HDi/XSi brakes -
Yours look like GTi to me!
This is where I get my hopes up and find there just HDI haha they do look like 6 brakes though
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - silverzx - 13-08-2014
Even if they aren't '6 brakes, you can pick them up for £30-£60 these days.. Hardly end of the world.
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 13-08-2014
(13-08-2014, 09:18 AM)silverzx Wrote: Even if they aren't '6 brakes, you can pick them up for £30-£60 these days.. Hardly end of the world.
True
give me an excuse to put dot 5 fluid in
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Toms306 - 13-08-2014
Plus GTi brakes aren't much better than 266s anyway....its not worth the hassle, cost and extra insurance premium for fitting them imo. I've stuck with the 266s this time for those reasons.
Both are a massive improvement over the 247s that you get on slow cars (1.4s, XUDs etc
)...surely you've noticed better stopping power from them than your 1.4?
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Midnightclub - 13-08-2014
You say that Tom but all your cars have been sub 130hp.. so agree, it doesn't really warrant the upgrade. If you're going big turbo etc.. then GTi6 brakes are definitely worth it
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 13-08-2014
(13-08-2014, 09:34 AM)Toms306 Wrote: Plus GTi brakes aren't much better than 266s anyway....its not worth the hassle, cost and extra insurance premium for fitting them imo. I've stuck with the 266s this time for those reasons.
Both are a massive improvement over the 247s that you get on slow cars (1.4s, XUDs etc
Definitely! First time I pushed the brake I almost went through the window haha, wasn't used to having powerful brakes
(13-08-2014, 09:38 AM)Midnightclub Wrote: You say that Tom but all your cars have been sub 130hp.. so agree, it doesn't really warrant the upgrade. If you're going big turbo etc.. then GTi6 brakes are definitely worth it
Yeah by doing what I wanna do it sounds like it will be around 170bhp so need all the stopping power I need
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Midnightclub - 13-08-2014
I've managed to set fire to 266's a couple of times, albeit that was hard driving down a mountain on one occasion.. But never had anything like that happen on the '6, the stopping power was incredible tbh
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Toms306 - 13-08-2014
With your insurance, you really shouldn't be looking for 170bhp yet imo...obviously that's up to you though.
You are right Danny (though this ones about 135bhp iirc
) but I don't see why that makes a difference tbh, 70 is still 70 regardless of how quickly you get there. And even braking from 90 on the 283s wasn't noticeably better than the 266s, just gave more pedal travel and less sharpness, really wasn't impressed with them tbh! Though I haven't been impressed with any 306 brakes since the Golf, that only used 288s despite its extra weight but the brakes were awesome tbh, even the 180 map didn't make them seem worse so I don't agree with more power needing more brake...theres more to it than size, just buying decent pads would be a good start.
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Midnightclub - 13-08-2014
It's not an outright X power increase means bigger brakes by X, but on a twisty road you'll be reaching higher speeds faster and so you'll be braking harder
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - silverzx - 13-08-2014
Tom, GTi6 brakes are far superior to 266's!
As for insurance it should bring the price down if you declare them.
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Toms306 - 13-08-2014
They aren't and it doesn't.
. Think it was 40 quid to declare them on mine!I also don't understand why you're wasting brakes on corners....decent tyres and suspension and just keep the power on.
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RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - ash23 - 13-08-2014
currently got 266 on the estate and there good for normal driving but as soon as I hit the back roads to work I can easily cook them / get crap pedal feel horrendous tbh but that is the heavier estate tho and I drive like a tit on my way to work (5am) gti calipers are ready to go on. if you plan on big turbo ect its a good upgrade especially with braided lines and decent pads
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 13-08-2014
I think i have GTi6 brakes! they measure just over 283mm but thats probably because its going over the hub part. heres a few pics just so you guys can confirm for me
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RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - DazzaHDI - 13-08-2014
They're 6 brakes
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Here's mine
Stupid iphone!
RE: Benefits of gti6 brakes - Nathan1305 - 13-08-2014
(13-08-2014, 02:21 PM)DazzaHDI Wrote: They're 6 brakes
Here's mine
Stupid iphone!
Sweet! What rotors are they? I kinda want drilled and grooved ones