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Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - fat n proud - 16-05-2014
Hi guys been thinkin about this for a while now with a pay rise coming up with summer well kinda here really fancy a cab so lookin into a diesel as I just prefer them was gonna hdi it as I have 1 already and like the way it drives but after reading about d tubs a little and the fun they can have has left me scratching my head so gonna sell my bike n start lookin for a dead cab or cheap so all comments are welcome im leaning more towards the 2.1 just because monster torque but 1.9s are rapid also so basically helllllllppppppp lol cheers guys
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Piggy - 16-05-2014
2.1 is ruddy noisey to be honest
I would think a HDi cabby be kinda to the ears
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - fat n proud - 16-05-2014
2 b fair im gonna rip out the rear seats for subwoofers so not really a problem good shout tho cheers
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Piggy - 16-05-2014
If you better with electrics, then hdi.
If you prefer old school mechanics, xud9 for a lighter easier option
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - fat n proud - 16-05-2014
A bit so so with both no mechanic but no auto electrician either how's the 2.1 day to day and under abuse compared 2 the 1.9 I read that after a bit of tuning u can't just nail the 1.9 also is there like the equivalent to Darren jobs on the 2.1 sorry for the questions iv never been this envolved before just want 2 do it properly
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Dum-Dum - 21-05-2014
The XUD9 / DW10 are straight swaps, the XUD11 if your using a standard turbo needs quite a bit of work with the hammers to make it fit. Also if you blow a XUD11 turbo good luck finding a replacement.
Realistically they are 3 very different lumps but all very easy to get 140-160bhp out of.
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - bashbarnard - 21-05-2014
Its all about the xud9 but then again im biased. There simple and easy to fit and maintain and no electrics to go wrong
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Chris1357 - 21-05-2014
Not long done a HDi Cabriolet & I must say from donor car to cab is very easy took us a day to complete..
Chris
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - jammapic - 21-05-2014
HDi, all day. More refined, better power delivery, quieter, better on fuel, lower emissions etc etc.
JP
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - fat n proud - 22-05-2014
Well guys I think I'm gonna b looking for a hdi lump then but I'm planning to get it balanced, polished and lightened first so 8 any body has a good hdi and gearbox floating around and is not miles aways from Gatwick that they wanna sell let me know also what's a good good Turbo upgrade for a hdi any body seen any successful alternatives sorry for all the questions cheers
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - jammapic - 22-05-2014
Would save your money on the lightening, balancing and head polishing. Really no point unless you are pushing for 250+hp.
Just get a stock motor, stick a decent turbo on like a 2052/2056, intercooler, clutch and get it mapped for 200hp.
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Dum-Dum - 22-05-2014
The right turbo depends on what power you want to go for a GT1549 is only a tiny upgrade but very nice for just stage 2 power and almost standard response.
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Jonny81191 - 22-05-2014
(22-05-2014, 11:55 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: The right turbo depends on what power you want to go for a GT1549 is only a tiny upgrade but very nice for just stage 2 power and almost standard response.
Sorry, what? You can't tell me that mine's unresponsive with a 2052 on it. It's by far the better option IMO, and the right frame shape pretty much goes straight on. Think of the better flow you see with the bigger frame size.
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - fat n proud - 22-05-2014
So is balancing a waste of time I was reading the zx build thread on here and he said it made a difference so for the 100 odd quid it would be I thought it would have been money well spent im not after massive power was just gonna get a good exhaust and air filter with a fmic and map to suit if it needs a clutch then so be it lol also jamma can u map a hdi to coal at say 4k just as like a party trick
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - VOYTEC - 21-09-2014
how to fit 2,1 to ph1 1.9dt LHD ? what need hammering ? i read meany thread's but i dont know what wit exhaust mani, turbo and downpipe .
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Piggy - 21-09-2014
Theres a guide in how to fit the 2.1 in the guides
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - VOYTEC - 21-09-2014
i know i read it. but i still dont know if turbo and exhaust mani will fit becouse i have LHD
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - Piggy - 21-09-2014
Only difference is where the brake MC and steering UJ is....if anything it will help.
The engine bay is symetrical after all
RE: Cab thoughts 2.1 d tub or stage 2 hdi comment please - VOYTEC - 21-09-2014
ok thanks for help... i still dont know how it fit. my english isnt best and i dont understad all from ' how to fit the 2.1'