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PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
Hi guys,
I've borrowed a laptop to use with my galetto lead.....moving the desktop to the car seemed like a lot of effort. :?
Its an Acer travelmate 2420 - shit slow tbh, but thats not the problem. The problem is it won't connect to our wireless router (Virgin media) at home - but connects fine to the BT home hub where it usually lives. When you click the wireless connections thing, it just says windows can't configure this wireless connection, but AFAIK there are no other programs that configure it, and its not like a dongle software as it has built in wireless.
So any ideas how I can get it to connect?? I used an ethernet lead last night but the leads broken and falls out constantly....not ideal when theres 72 microsoft updates to download.
hock:Im now off out but will check back here when I get back,
Cheers
Tom
Re: PC Help!? - Dan! - 20-03-2012
I wouldnt want to be using a shit slow/unreliable laptop for mapping a car, which is what I assume its for?
Re: PC Help!? - Midnightclub - 20-03-2012
Agreed with dan.. just cancel the updates and don't let them install
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
Dan! Wrote:I wouldnt want to be using a shit slow/unreliable laptop for mapping a car, which is what I assume its for?
I'm trying to speed it up.....but think that it may need sp3 to be updated before anything else lol.
Midnightclub Wrote:Agreed with dan.. just cancel the updates and don't let them install
They can't download as it won't connect to the wireless.....this is the problem!
Re: PC Help!? - Midnightclub - 20-03-2012
Downloading updates isn't going to make it run any faster tom
Re: PC Help!? - td_dan - 20-03-2012
If its an old laptop tom then the wireless card wont be the best and probably cant connect due to the type of password on the router.
do you know if the router password is wep or wpa?
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
td_dan Wrote:If its an old laptop tom then the wireless card wont be the best and probably cant connect due to the type of password on the router.
do you know if the router password is wep or wpa?
Yeah its one of them :?
WPA 2, AES I think.The laptop isnt really old tbh, 2 or 3 years at most. But its owned by old people so barely ever used....
Re: PC Help!? - cwspellowe - 20-03-2012
The superhubs are a PITA with older network cards. Is it an Atheros card? If so you'll need to update the drivers, there were known compatability issues with the superhubs a couple of years ago and a driver update solved it.
Also set the superhub to 145Mbps, channel 11, 2.4Ghz mode. Seems to let older laptops connect to it when you set it up like so. You might find the router is trying to set itself to channel 13 if it's still set to auto and not a lot of network cards like that.
Usually though if the wireless is working with other devices and not the laptop in question it's the laptop itself at fault. If you were closer i'd give you an RJ45, i've about 50 in the van
EDIT checking the spec on online it's only an 802.11b/g network card and 10/100 ethernet port. Try setting the superhub as I mentioned above and try again. Yours is probably still on 300Mbps and causing issues with anything working wireless g.
Encryption is also set to WPA Auto by default so shouldn't be the encryption causing issues.
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
cwspellowe Wrote:The superhubs are a PITA with older network cards. Is it an Atheros card? If so you'll need to update the drivers, there were known compatability issues with the superhubs a couple of years ago and a driver update solved it.
Also set the superhub to 145Mbps, channel 11, 2.4Ghz mode. Seems to let older laptops connect to it when you set it up like so. You might find the router is trying to set itself to channel 13 if it's still set to auto and not a lot of network cards like that.
Usually though if the wireless is working with other devices and not the laptop in question it's the laptop itself at fault. If you were closer i'd give you an RJ45, i've about 50 in the van
Ok.....I have no idea what you're on about!
The router works fine with my the 4 pcs and 5 phones in the house.....so gotta be the laptop.
Re: PC Help!? - cwspellowe - 20-03-2012
What hub are you using? The superhub with the blue virgin logo, and three lights on the side?
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
No, its a linksys WAG54GS or something like that.
Re: PC Help!? - cwspellowe - 20-03-2012
Hmm then i'm out bud, my technical expertise only goes as far back as the D-links, the Linksys' were before my time
Re: PC Help!? - Midnightclub - 20-03-2012
Tom.. if you'd have just done as i'd said then it wouldn't matter.. ignore the f*cking updates it isn't going to make any difference.. you want the internet disconnected when using the galletto anyway!
EDIT: If it's running XP then unless they've put it on themselves then it's older than 2 to 3 years
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
Midnightclub Wrote:Tom.. if you'd have just done as i'd said then it wouldn't matter.. ignore the f*cking updates it isn't going to make any difference.. you want the internet disconnected when using the galletto anyway!
This isn't just for the galletto lol, I'm not doing the remap till next weekend anyway...thats irrelevant atm. As part of the laptop borrowing, I said I'd clean it up, update it and try make it a bit quicker.
cwspellowe Wrote:Hmm then i'm out bud, my technical expertise only goes as far back as the D-links, the Linksys' were before my time
Oh :/ Didnt realise it was that old lol.
Re: PC Help!? - cwspellowe - 20-03-2012
Toms306 Wrote:Midnightclub Wrote:Tom.. if you'd have just done as i'd said then it wouldn't matter.. ignore the f*cking updates it isn't going to make any difference.. you want the internet disconnected when using the galletto anyway!
This isn't just for the galletto lol, I'm not doing the remap till next weekend anyway...thats irrelevant atm. As part of the laptop borrowing, I said I'd clean it up, update it and try make it a bit quicker.
Erm, just being observational, but you're going to clean up, update it and optimise it yet you don't know how to connect it to your router?
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
Midnightclub Wrote:EDIT: If it's running XP then unless they've put it on themselves then it's older than 2 to 3 years
Yeah its xp.........where can I find out how old it is then? Must be longer than I thought!
cwspellowe Wrote:Toms306 Wrote:This isn't just for the galletto lol, I'm not doing the remap till next weekend anyway...thats irrelevant atm. As part of the laptop borrowing, I said I'd clean it up, update it and try make it a bit quicker.
Erm, just being observational, but you're going to clean up, update it and optimise it yet you don't know how to connect it to your router?
I can connect any other PC or phone to my router lol.....which is why I can't work out why this one won't connect!? :?
I never said optimise!
But updates, new antivirus, defrag and stuff I can just about manage. 
Re: PC Help!? - Midnightclub - 20-03-2012
cwspellowe Wrote:Erm, just being observational, but you're going to clean up, update it and optimise it yet you don't know how to connect it to your router?
Exactly this! Tom don't go playing around with something 1) You have no idea about 2) Isn't yours..
Updating it will not make any difference in speed, get a new ethernet cable they only cost about £2. Download C Cleaner and Malware bytes and run them both that'll improve the speed a bit and get rid of any infections if there is any.
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
Oh also I've just thought........the map I'm getting is dowloaded off interent!
Midnightclub Wrote:cwspellowe Wrote:Erm, just being observational, but you're going to clean up, update it and optimise it yet you don't know how to connect it to your router?
Exactly this! Tom don't go playing around with something 1) You have no idea about
If that was the case, I'd never do anything....ever!
hock:
Re: PC Help!? - Midnightclub - 20-03-2012
Learn how to edit a post FFS.. How many double posts do you want?
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
You can't multiquote on here
Re: PC Help!? - Scott - 20-03-2012
Yes you can. Quote the first person, then when it loads the post editor, scroll down, press the quote button again.
Tadaaaaa.
Also since I've read the thread after cleaning it, you'll have a WRT54G, WRT54GR or a WRT54GS, they're crappy old linksys routers that used to be supplied by Virgin not long after first started offering wireless routers. I'd say it's actually down to the router rather than the laptop here, as I've experienced a number of problems with the 54GR I used to have.
My laptop, mum's laptop and mum's HTC Desire could all connect fine wirelessly, but my HTC Desire could not ever connect, even though both phones had the same software. If ever I had my xbox on wirelessly, if I turned it off, I would have to reboot the router or there would be no internet for any device in the house. There may be a firmware update available for the router, and if I remember correctly with the WRT54GS you can actually install DD-WRT, which is a different and much more capable firmware. There are numerous guides on how to do it, just use google
Failing that you'd need to use an ethernet cable or get a different router.
Re: PC Help!? - Toms306 - 20-03-2012
Scott Wrote:Yes you can. Quote the first person, then when it loads the post editor, scroll down, press the quote button again.
Tadaaaaa
Oh right lol, never knew that Haha!
Re: PC Help!? - Scott - 20-03-2012
I've added some info above to help out too