tomw1123 Wrote:Could be clutch judder? Or has it just suddenly started? I imagine clutch judder would slowly get worse and worse

Edit: actually i think that would be the clutch slipping underload but in a jumpy fashion not just sliding around if you get me?

Dan! Wrote:Sounds like a clutch problem to me, oops.... ££££££

cully Wrote:is this the one thats the college project?
maybe take it to college and get your lecturer to teach you about cars

Poodle Wrote:Quite a few cars i know do this and they all belong to old/older women - ie the kind of people who are daft enough to boot it from low rpm on a regular basis and expect the engine to be fine. No idea what the solution is, but at least you know the source of the problem now.

Poodle Wrote:Quite a few cars i know do this and they all belong to old/older women - ie the kind of people who are daft enough to boot it from low rpm on a regular basis and expect the engine to be fine. No idea what the solution is, but at least you know the source of the problem now.

Dan! Wrote:Mark, I dont think its normal judder from low revs/full throttle. I know I can cruise at 1000rpm in 5th doing 30mph, and its fine with light throttle, but mash your foot and the engines a bit juddery, but Tom reckons his feels like somebody is kicking you in the back/whole car shaking, which must be something else imo...

Dan! Wrote:Mark, I dont think its normal judder from low revs/full throttle. I know I can cruise at 1000rpm in 5th doing 30mph, and its fine with light throttle, but mash your foot and the engines a bit juddery, but Tom reckons his feels like somebody is kicking you in the back/whole car shaking, which must be something else imo...

Ruan Wrote:DMF more than likely, it's the lack of damping as all the rubber bushing will have given up and is now able to rattle back and forth at low RPMs as each cylinder fires, jumping the flywheel round more, giving that thumping sensation.

Another reason they're whack.

Mr Whippy Wrote:Not saying this is it, but since you are at a college and it's an engineering issue, it's worth considering.

Drive trains have oscillatory frequencies, and it may well be that in that gear with that much force being applied the system is oscillating badly.

DMF is there to protect from really bad oscillations, and other engine mapping routines, since these engines generate a lot of torque and gearbox loads at low (gearbox) rpm where their natural frequencies occur.

Is the car tuned?

Is the DMF damaged, and so making some weird oscillations happen over that rev range?

That is just me wondering, no idea if that is it or not, or if that is even possible



It might be really obvious from how it's driving. Is it actually low on power (which it would be if you had slipping clutch, injectors not firing or bad injections happening, etc), or does it accelerate as you would expect, just with lots of wobbling at the same time?

Dave

silverzx Wrote:Bit off topic but why do you have two of exactly the same car? Ones a uni project so may be of the road for periods of time where you still need a daily?

If thats the case why not sell one and get a little 106 1.5na and pump the extra cash into sorting the project out?

procta Wrote:i would start with the basic, like fuel filter change and not booting it from 40mph in 6th gear.
see if that helps the car, also check the engine mounts too. also
tom my dad said try pulling a way in second gear, if the car wont then the clutch is failing. also driving up a hill in second gear too is another one.

Toms306 Wrote:Also, lol at the price of the dmf from vw dealer! Asked them on another where I get discount.....

hello the price for the clutch and flywheel

non member member price
clutch kit £138-97 £74-40
flywheel £583-09 £454-80

prices inc vat but clutch kit has a £24 surcharge which would be refunded when the old item is returned

thanks

_________________ Robinsons Volkswagen Norwich 01603 612111

The clutch price seems ok though lol! Not much more than a TU clutch kit!

Anyone reckon I could change a clutch myself at home? Have done it in workshop but jot sure whether it'd be possible at home or in my nans garage?

Toms306 Wrote:I can pull away uphill in third mate! Accidently done that the other day.
Also, it will be getting a service.....when I next get paid in about a weeks time.

daddyfixit Wrote:my galaxy is a pd motor also tom, if i drop it into 6th below about 60mph it rattles its bollocks off !! you are in too high a gear at too low a speed and thats the problem
its not the maf,pump,clutch,dmf at all mate..............its because you are in the wrong gear.

6th is an overdrive gear for cruising, not for plodding around.

if the dmf is fked on a pd engine, it rattles as you start the car and if pressing the clutch up and down as its idling, you may hear it singing at you !!! mines got 151k on it and is still fine on its original clutch/dmf.

also pd engines,hdi diesels are in imi based qualifications @ level 2, dmf's are covered in imi level 2 transmission................................??????????